User:Oldlaptop/Counter table

This page contains a table for ship countering in Player vs. Player Supermelee games. The table is read as follows:

• Left-most cell: The ship for which counters are listed
• Hard counter: Ships that are almost certain to destroy the ship
• Soft counter: Ships that might destroy the ship, but usually require that the ship is either damaged before hand or some luck is involved.
• Odd matches: Ships that might do the trick, but may just as well fail awfully.
• Stalemates: These are matches which will result in neither of the ships getting any hits in. Avoid these matches at all costs.
• The definition of a counter is "A ship that can take out another, more expensive ship". Usually the difference in value is more than just a point or two, while in some cases it is considered that a more expensive ship is the de facto counter.

Note: If you think something belongs in this chart, please ask on #uqm-arena before doing your changes.

Vanilla Ur-Quan Masters

Ship	Hard Counters	Soft Counters	Odd Matches	Stalemates
	1
		2
	5
			3
	1	1
		2
		2
4				ALL
		2

Shiver's Balance Mod

Shiver's Balance Mod attempted to balance UQM by changing ship costs, modifying some ship stats, and radically changing some of the more broken ships. There are quite a few changes to the ships. The net result is that gameplay is more balanced, with a few designated hard counters. Capital ships are good against most ships, and usually have one hard counter.

Ship	Hard Counters	Soft Counters	Odd Matches	Stalemates
	1
		? ?
		2
			3
	?	?
	1	1
		2 ?
		2 ?
	?

¹While this is not a true counter price-wise, it is necessary to use overwhelming force to reliably take some ships down.

²This ship is not necessarily sufficient by itself, but can do enough damage to soften up the enemy before another ship.

³Slylandro is a ship which is as powerful as its pilot is. At times Mmrnmhrm can defeat Slylandro without taking much damage, but a skilled Slylandro pilot can avoid all Mmrnmhrm fire

⁴The vanilla Thraddash Torch is usually banned in competitive Supermelee as the ship is broken beyond repair

⁵While this ship is too overpriced to recommend in vanilla UQM, this is a good use if you must have it