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Category talk:Ships

2009-10-12T09:44:31Z

Angelfish:

Hey guys, where is the Tug? You can't have a wiki on Star Control without the Tug. --[[User:Shiver|Shiver]] 00:33, 24 December 2008 (CET)
:Tug? You mean [http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/wiki/The_Flagship The Flagship]? In [http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Category:Ships_(Specific) Category:Ships (Specific)]? (*creates "Precursor tug" to "The Flagship" redirect*) [[User:Valaggar|Valaggar]] 17:28, 24 December 2008 (CET)

Perhaps it's a good idea to enhance the ship pages to display their stats into a more understandable format? Ie. not X frames per rotation, but X full revolutions or X full degrees per second?

Talk:Leyland Gravity Whip

2009-07-18T14:00:50Z

Angelfish: /* Gravity Whop */

I read somewhere that the Space Marines '''were''' actually trained with the Gravity Whip. I've certainly watched them deliberately head for a planet to use it.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 03:35, 20 April 2007 (CEST)

:You are correct. From the SC2 manual: "Opponents would be wise to remember that Space Marines receive special training in using the Leyland Whip maneuver, and are exceptionally adept using a planet’s gravity to speed them toward their target." (pg. 96) --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 03:59, 20 April 2007 (CEST)

::Finally, I was right about something! Score 1 for me being right, score 287 me being wrong. --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 06:56, 21 April 2007 (CEST)

=Gravity Whop=
I have to ask, what exactly is a "Gravity Whop". Is it meant simply as a joke about the sound your ship makes when it hits a planet? Why the capitalization? Is this referencing the game manual or some other source? Although I should not be the one to criticize adding some humor to the Ultronomicon, being partly responsible for [[Game Humor|this]], I found this a bit confusing, expecting a separate page to at least explain the joke, if it is a joke, or what a Gravity Whop is, if it isn't. For a moment, I thought it was a reference to something I've seen a lot in SC2 battles (don't recall if SC1 had it as well). Occasionally, it is possible for your ship to be "thrown" at incredibly fast speed without the use of a gravity whip. Usually it occurs when the two ships get "tangled" in each other, or an asteroid, or rarely from repeatedly striking the planet itself. I'm not sure if this was an intentional part of the program code's game dynamics or a fluke of its collision detection system in processing the action-reaction in transference of energy from one body to another. Has any one else ever experienced this phenomenon? --[[User:PsiPhi|PsiPhi]] 15:28, 17 October 2007 (CEST)

:It seems that I was the one who put this in. It was a joke. If you get too close to the planet, instead of whipping around a planet you'd whop into it. I've removed it now, as it apparently was a cause for confusion, and it didn't quite fit in an encyclopedic work anyhow.
:If I'm not mistaken, the getting thrown at incredible speed is a result of the code that tries to move overlapping objects apart. It may be a bug. — [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 02:11, 23 October 2007 (CEST)
:: About 10 years ago I emailed fred and paul with this question. Fred replied that it's not a bug, but a feature :). The email was on TPNOF but I can't find it anymore.--[[User:Angelfish|Angelfish]] 14:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:I've definitely experienced this entanglement acceleration phenomenon, many times. I've seen it happen to Chmmr Avatars, in which case the zapsats get left behind. In fact I distinctly remember my flagship and a Kzer-Za Dreadnought warping on top of each other at the beginning of a battle (PC version). I don't think any incredible speed eventuated though. PsiPhi mentions it happening in the vicinity of planets, I seem to remember something like this, and it's always seemed counter-intuitive to me, but because it isn't real, maybe it's bound to.

:It's a shame about having to get rid of that joke. --[[User:Zeracles|Zeracles]] 21:17, 23 October 2007 (CEST)

::Yes, I agree. It was a decent pun. I almost regret asking now. Oh well, I guess it's for the best. --[[User:PsiPhi|PsiPhi]] 12:46, 24 October 2007 (CEST)

Talk:Leyland Gravity Whip

2009-07-18T14:00:13Z

Angelfish:

I read somewhere that the Space Marines '''were''' actually trained with the Gravity Whip. I've certainly watched them deliberately head for a planet to use it.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 03:35, 20 April 2007 (CEST)

:You are correct. From the SC2 manual: "Opponents would be wise to remember that Space Marines receive special training in using the Leyland Whip maneuver, and are exceptionally adept using a planet’s gravity to speed them toward their target." (pg. 96) --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 03:59, 20 April 2007 (CEST)

::Finally, I was right about something! Score 1 for me being right, score 287 me being wrong. --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 06:56, 21 April 2007 (CEST)

=Gravity Whop=
I have to ask, what exactly is a "Gravity Whop". Is it meant simply as a joke about the sound your ship makes when it hits a planet? Why the capitalization? Is this referencing the game manual or some other source? Although I should not be the one to criticize adding some humor to the Ultronomicon, being partly responsible for [[Game Humor|this]], I found this a bit confusing, expecting a separate page to at least explain the joke, if it is a joke, or what a Gravity Whop is, if it isn't. For a moment, I thought it was a reference to something I've seen a lot in SC2 battles (don't recall if SC1 had it as well). Occasionally, it is possible for your ship to be "thrown" at incredibly fast speed without the use of a gravity whip. Usually it occurs when the two ships get "tangled" in each other, or an asteroid, or rarely from repeatedly striking the planet itself. I'm not sure if this was an intentional part of the program code's game dynamics or a fluke of its collision detection system in processing the action-reaction in transference of energy from one body to another. Has any one else ever experienced this phenomenon? --[[User:PsiPhi|PsiPhi]] 15:28, 17 October 2007 (CEST)

:It seems that I was the one who put this in. It was a joke. If you get too close to the planet, instead of whipping around a planet you'd whop into it. I've removed it now, as it apparently was a cause for confusion, and it didn't quite fit in an encyclopedic work anyhow.
:If I'm not mistaken, the getting thrown at incredible speed is a result of the code that tries to move overlapping objects apart. It may be a bug. — [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 02:11, 23 October 2007 (CEST)
:: About 10 years ago I emailed fred and paul with this question. Fred replied that it's not a bug, but a feature :). The email was on TPNOF but I can't find it anymore.

:I've definitely experienced this entanglement acceleration phenomenon, many times. I've seen it happen to Chmmr Avatars, in which case the zapsats get left behind. In fact I distinctly remember my flagship and a Kzer-Za Dreadnought warping on top of each other at the beginning of a battle (PC version). I don't think any incredible speed eventuated though. PsiPhi mentions it happening in the vicinity of planets, I seem to remember something like this, and it's always seemed counter-intuitive to me, but because it isn't real, maybe it's bound to.

:It's a shame about having to get rid of that joke. --[[User:Zeracles|Zeracles]] 21:17, 23 October 2007 (CEST)

::Yes, I agree. It was a decent pun. I almost regret asking now. Oh well, I guess it's for the best. --[[User:PsiPhi|PsiPhi]] 12:46, 24 October 2007 (CEST)