Talk:Sentient Milieu

2007-12-08T17:10:18Z

Dakkus: /* 11 races */

Did the Faz actually join just 2,000 years ago, or is that suppose to say 20,000?

: From the resource guide:
:: ''The Faz joined the Sentient Milieu several centuries before the Ur-Quan, about 2,000 years ago. Like the Ur-Quan and the other Milieu races, the Faz fell under the psychic compulsion of the Dnyarri and for over 2,000 years served their masters every perverted wish.''
:I do agree that there's some inconsistency here. -- [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 20:02, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)

That would imply that the Dnyarri fell in the early years of the 1st century, which we know isn't true. Hmmm. Certainties:

# The Dnyarri were discovered by the Ur-Quan over 20,000 years ago
# The Ur-Quan joined before they discovered the Dnyarri
# The Faz joined before the Ur-Quan

Perhaps the 2,000 is meant to be "years before the Ur-Quan joined" so 22,000 BC? Or maybe they just forgot a zero.

[[User:Mmrnmhrm|Mmrnmhrm]] 20:23, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)

Can someone provide a reference for the "eleven members" quote. It's not in the conversation files of UQM nor in the voice files of the 3DO version. Maybe it's in the original PC version? --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 02:31, 28 December 2005 (CET)

:Interesting... it's indeed just in the PC version.
:— [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 10:45, 28 December 2005 (CET)

Now that's really weird, since I pulled it out of the conversation files for version 0.3 of UQM! It was OK_BUY_HISTORY_4 in the melnorme conversations -- [[User:Death 999|Death 999]]

:Thanks for the confirmation. I no longer have version 0.3 on my computer and the original PC version has been inoperable for some time. We'll should probably include the source and include a few of the other conversation comments that seem to imply a larger Milieu... --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 23:23, 28 December 2005 (CET)

::The uqm subtitles came from the PC version, but have since then be modified to match the 3DO speech. — [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 08:35, 29 December 2005 (CET)

== 11 races ==

Shouldn't the "11 races" (in the Melnorme account) should be considered an inconsistency? The Kohr-Ah and the Kzer-Za refer to them as five races (the remaining five races, i.e. after the Taalo were forced to fall back to *Pretty Space*, so 7 races total, i.e. with the Ur-Quan and the Taalo included). It makes no sense that the same phrasing is used when introducing all races (with the minor races) and when introducing only the major races. [[User:Valaggar|Valaggar]] 13:31, 17 June 2007 (CEST)

It might be, that the other four races are non-sentient milieu (as opposed to sentient milieu). Some kind of cattle of great importance, perhaps? Milieu is the whole of sentient and nonsentient milieu members together and since "the cattle" (could almost put the Orz asterisks here ;)) are not of great importance when it comes to the decision-making process of the Milieu, it's easy just forgetting their existence while talking - at least if you are really evil and cynical. So, in some situations "milieu" could be a short form of "noteworthy milieu" (in other words: sentient milieu). [[User:Dakkus|Dakkus]] 18:07, 08 December 2007 (CEST)

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