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Apparent discrepancies within Star Control II

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	*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).		*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).

			*[[Talana]] says that it had been 75 years after [[Syra]]'s destruction by the time the [[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za]] gave the [[Syreen]] a new homeworld, [[Gaia]]. At the same time, she also says that it had been "almost seventy-five years" since its destruction when the Syreen encountered the [[Alliance of Free Stars]]. The time gap between the Syreen joining the Alliance and their surrender to the Ur-Quan is a lot longer than a few years, since the battles at the [[Coreward Front]] alone lasted for ten years.

	==Differences with the real world==		==Differences with the real world==

Elestan: Renaming links ("Star Control Universe" -> "Ur-Quan Masters Universe")

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Renaming links ("Star Control Universe" -> "Ur-Quan Masters Universe")

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	For the most part, the rich and diverse lore of the [[~~Star Control~~ Universe]] as created by [[Toys for Bob\|TFB ]] is self-consistent. However, there are certain notable discrepancies within the games and its associated [[canon]]. This page is intended to organize and catalog these inconsistencies. A certain number of discrepancies occur between the PC and 3DO versions of the game; though not listed here, most of these can be found at the [[Version Comparison]].		For the most part, the rich and diverse lore of the [[Ur-Quan Masters Universe]] as created by [[Toys for Bob\|TFB]] is self-consistent. However, there are certain notable discrepancies within the games and its associated [[canon]]. This page is intended to organize and catalog these inconsistencies. A certain number of discrepancies occur between the PC and 3DO versions of the game; though not listed here, most of these can be found at the [[Version Comparison]].

	==Discrepancies between Star Control I & II==		==Discrepancies between Star Control I & II==

PRH at 15:11, 22 June 2019

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	*Historical events		*Historical events
	**[[Star Control]] places the relevant events within the 26th and 27th centuries while [[Star Control II]] places most events within the 21st and 22nd centuries.		**[[Star Control]] places the relevant events within the 26th and 27th centuries while [[Star Control II]] places most events within the 21st and 22nd centuries.
	**The [[Battle in Draco]], mentioned in one of the [[Ur-Quan Slave War#Campaigns\|full game campaigns]] and by [[Hayes]], probably did not happen in [[Draconis]].		**The [[Battle in Draco]], mentioned in one of the [[Ur-Quan Slave War#Campaigns\|full game campaigns]] and by [[Hayes]], probably did not happen in [[Draconis]], as there were no known battles in that war that involved the [[Thraddash]], who were already members of the [[Hierarchy]] and inhabited that region of space.
	**The [[Androsynth]] [[Clone Revolt]] is described completely different in the SC1 manual.		**The [[Androsynth]] [[Clone Revolt]] is described completely different in the SC1 manual.

	*Name changes		*Name changes
	**The [[Spathi]] ship is known as a Discriminator in SC1, and as an [[Eluder]] in SC2.		**The [[Spathi]] ship is known as a Discriminator in SC1, and as an [[Eluder]] in SC2.
	**The [[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za]] captains are known as Masters in SC1, but as Lords in SC2.		**The [[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za]] captains are known as Masters in SC1 (except the Genesis version), but as Lords in SC2. SC2 dialogue uses both titles for Ur-Quan captains ([[Talana]] makes a reference to the "Ur-Quan Master Nine").
	**In SC1, the plural forms for "Yehat" and "Mycon" are "Yehats" and "Mycons", respectively, in contrast with the same form as the singular in SC2.		**In SC1, the plural forms for "Yehat" and "Mycon" are "Yehats" and "Mycons", respectively, in contrast with the same form as the singular in SC2.

PRH at 16:10, 26 August 2011

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	*The [[Utwig]] claim that the [[Precursor Bomb]] "has the power to destroy entire planetary objects, perhaps even galaxies", but if you ask for more information, they say "From what our scientists can tell, it appears to be a planeteering tool capable of reducing moon-sized objects to particulate dust clouds."		*The [[Utwig]] claim that the [[Precursor Bomb]] "has the power to destroy entire planetary objects, perhaps even galaxies", but if you ask for more information, they say "From what our scientists can tell, it appears to be a planeteering tool capable of reducing moon-sized objects to particulate dust clouds."

			*In the 3DO dialogue [[Fwiffo]] says that the [[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za]] departed "towards the edge of the galaxy" after defeating the [[Alliance]]. This is the exact opposite of the truth, as they actually departed coreward, as is correctly stated in the PC dialogue.

	==Simplifications==		==Simplifications==

Fyzixfighter: /* Discrepancies within Star Control II */ DOS->PC so consistent with other pages

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Discrepancies within Star Control II: DOS->PC so consistent with other pages

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	==Discrepancies within Star Control II==		==Discrepancies within Star Control II==
	*[[Syreen]]		*[[Syreen]]
	**The manual for the ~~DOS~~ version of SC2 states that their homeworld in the [[Arianni]] constellation. The 3DO manual gives the correct location in the [[Copernicus]] constellation.		**The manual for the PC version of SC2 states that their homeworld in the [[Arianni]] constellation. The 3DO manual gives the correct location in the [[Copernicus]] constellation.
	**The ~~DOS~~ manual also calls their homeworld Syrea.		**The PC manual also calls their homeworld Syrea.

	*[[Hayes]]		*[[Hayes]]

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	*[[Syreen]]		*[[Syreen]]
	**The SC2 ~~manual~~ states that their homeworld in the [[Arianni]] constellation.		**The manual for the DOS version of SC2 states that their homeworld in the [[Arianni]] constellation. The 3DO manual gives the correct location in the [[Copernicus]] constellation.
	**The ~~SC2~~ manual also calls their homeworld Syrea.		**The DOS manual also calls their homeworld Syrea.

	*[[Hayes]]		*[[Hayes]]

Fyzixfighter: /* Simplifications */ simplifying some (imo) awkward phrasing (still a little awkward though...)

2011-05-05T05:51:44Z

Simplifications: simplifying some (imo) awkward phrasing (still a little awkward though...<pondering...>)

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	*Physics/astronomy-related simplifications		*Physics/astronomy-related simplifications
	**Missing features of real objects (e.g. moons of smaller ~~size~~ than Triton and ring systems in the [[Sol\|Solar system]], no asteroids or nebulae). Also, the data of some of the game's Solar system objects ~~like~~ their mass or their atmospheric pressure are sometimes different of the real ones.		**Missing features of real objects (e.g. moons smaller than Triton and ring systems in the [[Sol\|Solar system]], asteroids, and nebulae). Also, the data of some of the game's Solar system objects, such as their mass or their atmospheric pressure, are sometimes different of the real ones.
	**Despite the passage of months and years, the planets and moons around any given star do not move relative to each other. Such motion should be observed irrespective of where the [[Flagship]] drops out of hyperspace, except for systems with only one planet or moon, because of [[wikipedia:Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion#Third_law\|Kepler's Third Law]].		**Despite the passage of months and years, the planets and moons around any given star do not move relative to each other. Such motion should be observed irrespective of where the [[Flagship]] drops out of hyperspace, except for systems with only one planet or moon, because of [[wikipedia:Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion#Third_law\|Kepler's Third Law]].
	**All orbits are coplanar with all others, including that of Pluto		**All orbits are coplanar with all others, including that of Pluto

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	*Physics/astronomy-related simplifications		*Physics/astronomy-related simplifications
	**Missing features of real objects (e.g. moons smaller than ~~the ours~~ and ring systems in the [[Sol\|Solar system]], no asteroids or nebulae). Also, the data of some of the game's Solar system objects like their mass or their atmospheric pressure are sometimes different of the real ones.		**Missing features of real objects (e.g. moons of smaller size than Triton and ring systems in the [[Sol\|Solar system]], no asteroids or nebulae). Also, the data of some of the game's Solar system objects like their mass or their atmospheric pressure are sometimes different of the real ones.
	**Despite the passage of months and years, the planets and moons around any given star do not move relative to each other. Such motion should be observed irrespective of where the [[Flagship]] drops out of hyperspace, except for systems with only one planet or moon, because of [[wikipedia:Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion#Third_law\|Kepler's Third Law]].		**Despite the passage of months and years, the planets and moons around any given star do not move relative to each other. Such motion should be observed irrespective of where the [[Flagship]] drops out of hyperspace, except for systems with only one planet or moon, because of [[wikipedia:Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion#Third_law\|Kepler's Third Law]].
	**All orbits are coplanar with all others, including that of Pluto		**All orbits are coplanar with all others, including that of Pluto

Shiver: Clean-up. Ellipsis and paratheses are unnecessary.

2011-05-05T02:44:34Z

Clean-up. Ellipsis and paratheses are unnecessary.

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	*[[Slave-shield]]ed worlds ([[Gaia]], [[Spathiwa]] and [[Unzervalt]]) are not cleansed by the Kohr-Ah during their [[Death March]]. (It is possible that they save those for the end, exterminating the more dangerous species first).		*[[Slave-shield]]ed worlds ([[Gaia]], [[Spathiwa]] and [[Unzervalt]]) are not cleansed by the Kohr-Ah during their [[Death March]]. (It is possible that they save those for the end, exterminating the more dangerous species first).

	*Star Control II's manual claims that in 1940, ten years after the first radio broadcasts on Earth, these radio broadcasts were intercepted by the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. However, traveling with the speed of light, these radio waves could not have reached the Ur-Quan so quickly. (It is possible that radio waves leak into HyperSpace, but that they are not as efficient for HyperSpace communications as [[HyperWave]], the usual means of communicating in HyperSpace, is. ~~Also, they could have been~~ intercepted by an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za vessel ~~(a ship~~ on~~, for example,~~ a reconnaissance mission~~, a probe or another craft similar to their spy drones..~~.))		*Star Control II's manual claims that in 1940, ten years after the first radio broadcasts on Earth, these radio broadcasts were intercepted by the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. However, traveling with the speed of light, these radio waves could not have reached the Ur-Quan so quickly. It is possible that radio waves leak into HyperSpace, but that they are not as efficient for HyperSpace communications as [[HyperWave]], the usual means of communicating in HyperSpace, is. Another possibility is that the signals were intercepted by an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za vessel on a reconnaissance mission.

	*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).		*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).

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Apparent discrepancies within Star Control II

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	*[[Slave-shield]]ed worlds ([[Gaia]], [[Spathiwa]] and [[Unzervalt]]) are not cleansed by the Kohr-Ah during their [[Death March]]. (It is possible that they save those for the end, exterminating the more dangerous species first).		*[[Slave-shield]]ed worlds ([[Gaia]], [[Spathiwa]] and [[Unzervalt]]) are not cleansed by the Kohr-Ah during their [[Death March]]. (It is possible that they save those for the end, exterminating the more dangerous species first).

	*Star Control II's manual claims that in 1940, ten years after the first radio broadcasts on Earth, these radio broadcasts were intercepted by the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. However, traveling with the speed of light, these radio waves could not have reached the Ur-Quan so quickly. (It is possible that radio waves leak into HyperSpace, but that they are not as efficient for HyperSpace communications as [[HyperWave]], the usual means of communicating in HyperSpace, is. Also, they could have been intercepted by an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za vessel (a ship on, for example, a reconnaissance mission, a probe...)		*Star Control II's manual claims that in 1940, ten years after the first radio broadcasts on Earth, these radio broadcasts were intercepted by the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. However, traveling with the speed of light, these radio waves could not have reached the Ur-Quan so quickly. (It is possible that radio waves leak into HyperSpace, but that they are not as efficient for HyperSpace communications as [[HyperWave]], the usual means of communicating in HyperSpace, is. Also, they could have been intercepted by an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za vessel (a ship on, for example, a reconnaissance mission, a probe or another craft similar to their spy drones...))

	*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).		*Two reasons are given for the [[Fury#Secondary\|insults]] used by a [[Pkunk]] [[Fury]]'s captain. The manual says that the Fury's secondary recharges the ship's batteries. The Pkunk say that the insults, in fact, throw them into a frenzy, lest their peaceful nature forbids them from attacking the enemy ship. (It is possible that both are true — the psychic energy generated is somehow converted to electrical energy and fed to the batteries).