Star Control sequel - Revision history

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2013-07-28T10:52:19Z

Svdb: /* Real life aspects */ add comment by FF

2013-07-28T10:21:17Z

Real life aspects: add comment by FF

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	::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.		::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.

			:''From an August 2010 [http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=222&p=4211#p4211 posting on the SCDB]'':
			::On a side note, I want to mention that I've started doing some unspecified work away from the office after some early and continuing conversations with Paul. Just saying . . . and it's way early yet . . . and it's just me . . . so, yeah.

	[[Category:About the Star Control series]]		[[Category:About the Star Control series]]

Svdb: update

2013-07-28T10:09:14Z

update

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	During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence (and in the ending, by having [[The Captain]] say "That, my children, is an entirely different story" as a response to his grandchildren asking where he went and how he found the [[Mark II]]). They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.		During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence (and in the ending, by having [[The Captain]] say "That, my children, is an entirely different story" as a response to his grandchildren asking where he went and how he found the [[Mark II]]). They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.

	Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (~~and now~~ owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.		Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (later owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.

	Below are the revelations they have made in [[IRC chats with Toys For Bob\|IRC chats]] and fan mails about their eventual Star Control sequel.		Below are the revelations they have made in [[IRC chats with Toys For Bob\|IRC chats]] and fan mails about their eventual Star Control sequel.

Oldlaptop: fix link to new title

2012-01-05T03:16:59Z

fix link to new title

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	Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.		Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.

	Below are the revelations they have made in [[~~TFB chat protocols~~\|IRC chats]] and fan mails about their eventual Star Control sequel.		Below are the revelations they have made in [[IRC chats with Toys For Bob\|IRC chats]] and fan mails about their eventual Star Control sequel.

	==Plot==		==Plot==

Valaggar: and mails

2008-02-03T07:46:12Z

and mails

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	Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.		Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.

	Below are the revelations they have made in [[TFB chat protocols\|IRC chats]] about their eventual Star Control sequel.		Below are the revelations they have made in [[TFB chat protocols\|IRC chats]] and fan mails about their eventual Star Control sequel.

	==Plot==		==Plot==

Valaggar: /* Real life aspects */ more mail quotes

2008-02-02T19:42:45Z

Real life aspects: more mail quotes

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	==Real life aspects==		==Real life aspects==
			:{{FredMail}}
			::We are finishing another game for Crystal (Japanese version only) for the next few months, but after that we are seriously considering another epic adventure game with lots of humor. And if we do this, I hope it will live up to all of our expectations.
			:{{FredMail}}
			::<nowiki>:</nowiki> Theoretically speaking, if you and Paul wanted to do another Star Control game independant of Accolade, would Accolade have any legal groud to prevent you from doing it? (I really hope NOT!)

			::I'm afraid the answer is, "Yes they would." We were slowly losing the Mexican standoff with Accolade. They were making sequels we didn't much support and at the same time changing what people thought when they heard the name "Star Control." So Paul and I decided to sell them our half of the rights and when (not if) we were ready to do another epic adventure game, we would just have to start from scratch.
	:{{IRC2007}}		:{{IRC2007}}
	::23:05 <@Meep-Eep> And I think we should start with the question which most people here will be most interested in to hear: what are you working on atm?		::23:05 <@Meep-Eep> And I think we should start with the question which most people here will be most interested in to hear: what are you working on atm?

Valaggar: wording

2007-09-30T16:38:13Z

wording

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	During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence (and in the ending, by ~~making~~ [[The Captain]] say "That, my children, is an entirely different story" as a response to his grandchildren asking where he went and how he found the [[Mark II]]). They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.		During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence (and in the ending, by having [[The Captain]] say "That, my children, is an entirely different story" as a response to his grandchildren asking where he went and how he found the [[Mark II]]). They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.

	Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.		Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.

Valaggar: also in the ending there's a hint

2007-09-06T09:30:16Z

also in the ending there's a hint

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	During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence. They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.		During the development of [[Star Control II]], the game's creators, [[Paul Reiche III]] and [[Fred Ford]], inserted numerous unsolved [[Mysteries left by Star Control II\|mysteries]] and even hinted outright at a sequel in the credit sequence (and in the ending, by making [[The Captain]] say "That, my children, is an entirely different story" as a response to his grandchildren asking where he went and how he found the [[Mark II]]). They did, indeed, intend to create a sequel, however they weren't willing to do so for the same amount of money that Accolade paid them for SC2 (and which left them to work unpaid for six months). So Accolade made an attempt to create a sequel on its own. The result was [[Star Control 3]], a game immediately rejected by a crushing majority of the original Star Control fans as non-[[canon]] and utterly lacking quality. Some fans have even elected to create their own sequels, such as [[TimeWarp]], which is intended to be based on plot suggestions from the public.

	Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.		Another result of Star Control 3 was that Paul and Fred no longer held the Star Control trademark, having sold it to Accolade (and now owned by Atari). This — and [[Toys for Bob]]'s publishers' lack of interest in a sequel — withheld Toys for Bob from actually creating a sequel, though they intend to do so as soon as possible, always hoping that after they finish their current project they will finally be allowed to begin work on a new Star Control game.

Valaggar: /* Plot */ better question choice

2007-06-22T17:39:11Z

Plot: better question choice

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	==Plot==		==Plot==
	:{{IRC2007}}		:{{IRC2007}}
	::23:11 <@~~Meep-Eep~~> ~~Is there anything else can you tell us~~ about ~~your new~~ game?		::23:09 <@fOSSiL> So we should refrain from asking too much about the potentially upcoming SC game? (not to devulge too much about the plot, etc.) ;)
	::23:12 <+PR3> I'd rather not say too much about the plot, except that Fwiffo's general paranoia, greed and lust for fame triggers the initial 'bad event' getting the player moving.		::23:12 <+PR3> I'd rather not say too much about the plot, except that Fwiffo's general paranoia, greed and lust for fame triggers the initial 'bad event' getting the player moving.

Valaggar: +cat, moved a badly categorized IRC quote

2007-06-18T12:09:24Z

+cat, moved a badly categorized IRC quote

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	::00:18 <+PulsarX> ever considered to make the view follow the ship, when you are flying in the interplanetary space, instead of going from picture to picture?		::00:18 <+PulsarX> ever considered to make the view follow the ship, when you are flying in the interplanetary space, instead of going from picture to picture?
	::00:18 <+PR3> Yes. I would like to see that, so long as finding a planet was not a big deal (some kind of radar?)		::00:18 <+PR3> Yes. I would like to see that, so long as finding a planet was not a big deal (some kind of radar?)

	~~:{{IRC2007}}~~
	~~::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.~~

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	::23:15 <+PR3> Still reading Jack Vance.		::23:15 <+PR3> Still reading Jack Vance.
	::23:19 <@fOSSiL> <Katana`7> Someone tell PR3 to read Charles Stross		::23:19 <@fOSSiL> <Katana`7> Someone tell PR3 to read Charles Stross

			:{{IRC2007}}
			::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.

			[[Category:About the Star Control series]]

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	::00:18 <+PulsarX> ever considered to make the view follow the ship, when you are flying in the interplanetary space, instead of going from picture to picture?		::00:18 <+PulsarX> ever considered to make the view follow the ship, when you are flying in the interplanetary space, instead of going from picture to picture?
	::00:18 <+PR3> Yes. I would like to see that, so long as finding a planet was not a big deal (some kind of radar?)		::00:18 <+PR3> Yes. I would like to see that, so long as finding a planet was not a big deal (some kind of radar?)

			:''From an October 2010 [http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=291 interview on the SCDB]'' with [[Fred Ford]]:
			::Lukipela: Speaking of game formats, besides melee the jump between SC and SC II was pretty big. Have you got any thoughts on in what direction you'd like to go when the third part in the octet comes out? RTS? Point'n click adventure? FPS? Something else?
			::Fred: It's still too early to say, but just choosing between 2D versus 3D is an order of magnitude decision in the amount of work and time. We're leaning to 2D, because we can actually imagine doing that in our spare time with fundamentally just the two of us. We realize that there are a large number of people who would sacrifice large parts of their existence to work on this with us, but we aren't at that place yet -- and we are still employed by Activision and wish to remain so. Genre also is undecided, but if it's 2D that would seem to eliminate, for example, FPS.

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	::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.		::23:37 <+robot> I think you will see an SC3 someday. Paul and I have every intention of continuing our almost 19 year collaboration and we're still excited about SC.

	:''From an August 2010 [http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=222&p=4211#p4211 posting on the SCDB]'':		:''From an August 2010 [http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=222&p=4211#p4211 posting on the SCDB]'' by [[Fred Ford]]:
	::On a side note, I want to mention that I've started doing some unspecified work away from the office after some early and continuing conversations with Paul. Just saying . . . and it's way early yet . . . and it's just me . . . so, yeah.		::On a side note, I want to mention that I've started doing some unspecified work away from the office after some early and continuing conversations with Paul. Just saying . . . and it's way early yet . . . and it's just me . . . so, yeah.

			:''From an October 2010 [http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=291 interview on the SCDB]'' with [[Fred Ford]]:
			::Lukipela: There's been some mention of a mysterious Fred&Paul side project on the forums. Would you care to shed any light on that?
			::Fred: I've left some pretty broad hints in the previous answers. I'm working, in a hobbyist sort of way, at home on a foundation for myself. Because I'm not really a big fan of working on something without an application, I can think of one obvious application on which I can work that resolves that problem. The pace is currently and understandably slow, and until I get further and until Paul has had some chance to think about things, progress will be agonizing to some who lack patience.

	[[Category:About the Star Control series]]		[[Category:About the Star Control series]]