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Superdude: /* Random Teams */

2018-06-19T17:27:45Z

Random Teams

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	====Random Teams====		====Random Teams====

	A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]].		A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]]. A good random team generator can be found [https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/uqmteam/ here].

	====Auction====		====Auction====

Superdude: /* Handicaps */

2018-06-14T16:31:39Z

Handicaps

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	* Play high.		* Play high.

			* Play drunk and high.


	[[Category:Game_mechanics]]		[[Category:Game_mechanics]]

Zeracles: Tidied up a little, moved some content into comment tag because I'm not sure what it meant

2016-07-23T07:04:05Z

Tidied up a little, moved some content into comment tag because I'm not sure what it meant

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	====Battle victor chooses ship for loser====		====Battle victor chooses ship for loser====
	Requires communication between players ~~per each pick~~. In usual rules, ~~losing~~ player ~~pick~~ a ship to easily ~~destroy opponent~~. ~~But here~~, ~~victor pick another~~ ship ~~to destroy~~.		Requires communication between players when ships are selected. When playing by the usual rules, the player who has just lost a ship picks a ship to easily defeat the other player's current ship. However, under these rules, the player with the victorious ship makes this choice for the player who has just lost a ship.
	~~This makes game much more needle.~~ <!-- damn unfortunately my command of English is ~~-->~~		<!-- damn unfortunately my command of English is ... Zer: not sure what these meant: This makes game much more needle. In case of Scout making successful hit, -->
	In case of Scout making successful hit,


	====Left-to-Right====		====Left-to-Right====

Alliumnsk: /* Other Rules */

2016-07-20T20:25:01Z

Other Rules

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	Use the random select button whenever the game prompts you to choose which ship to send into the arena. Ideally, both players should immediately mash this button any time the ship selection screen comes up to remove any doubt of cheating. This format is not great for fair competition, but the unusual ship match-ups add a lot of variety to the game. Random Ship Selection is best combined with a ban on 30pt ships, which tend to heavily skew a match depending on what is drawn against them.		Use the random select button whenever the game prompts you to choose which ship to send into the arena. Ideally, both players should immediately mash this button any time the ship selection screen comes up to remove any doubt of cheating. This format is not great for fair competition, but the unusual ship match-ups add a lot of variety to the game. Random Ship Selection is best combined with a ban on 30pt ships, which tend to heavily skew a match depending on what is drawn against them.

			====Battle victor chooses ship for loser====
			Requires communication between players per each pick. In usual rules, losing player pick a ship to easily destroy opponent. But here, victor pick another ship to destroy.
			This makes game much more needle. <!-- damn unfortunately my command of English is -->
			In case of Scout making successful hit,


	====Left-to-Right====		====Left-to-Right====

86.45.86.233: /* Handicaps */

2011-11-29T22:23:26Z

Handicaps

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	* Play drunk.		* Play drunk.

			* Play high.


	[[Category:Game_mechanics]]		[[Category:Game_mechanics]]

Shiver: Broken link cut.

2011-07-23T16:57:40Z

Broken link cut.

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	====Random Teams====		====Random Teams====

	A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]]. ~~A good online random team generator can be found [http://bilious.homelinux.org/~paxed/uqmteam/ here]. {Broken link}~~		A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]].

	====Auction====		====Auction====

207.101.83.110: /* Random Teams */

2011-07-20T20:00:18Z

Random Teams

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	====Random Teams====		====Random Teams====

	A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]]. A good online random team generator can be found [http://bilious.homelinux.org/~paxed/uqmteam/ here].		A random team can be more interesting, as you will often end up without such omnipresent mainstays as the [[Utwig]] [[Jugger]]. A good online random team generator can be found [http://bilious.homelinux.org/~paxed/uqmteam/ here]. {Broken link}

	====Auction====		====Auction====

Shiver: revamp

2011-01-09T01:05:51Z

revamp

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Oldlaptop: Overwriting with userpage copy here

2011-01-08T14:48:27Z

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-The Ur-Quan Masters provides a networked Super Melee arena and point costs for all the ships, but no standardized rules. Thus, different groups of fans have developed different rule sets for putting together their fleets for battle. This page is an attempt to collect all such rule sets and describe them. (If you've played using rules that aren't described here, by all means add them!)
+The Ur-Quan Masters provides a networked Super Melee arena and point costs for all the ships, but no standardized rules. Thus, different groups of fans have developed different rule sets for putting together their fleets for battle. This page is an attempt to collect all such rule sets and describe them. If you've played using rules that aren't described here, by all means add them!
 *Point limits other than 200 can be used, although they are uncommon. The outcome of a lower point game is drastically affected by each player's fleet composition, while higher point games don't leave much room for choice in fleet selection.
-*The game can also be played simply with a point limit and no restriction on duplicate ships; this has fallen out of use since the result depends mostly on the teams used. Certain ship types tend to dominate most others.
 *In order to reasonably allow more of the same ship, players can take turns picking ships rather than coming with predetermined fleets.
-===Other rulesets===
+*Capital ships can be limited or banned, to keep them from skewing the game heavily.
-*Alliance vs. Hierarchy: A match with the predetermined teams "Old Alliance Ships" and "Old Hierarchy Ships". It's an interesting match, since the creators of the game went to a great deal of effort to balance it in Star Control 1. On the other hand, it seems to favor the Alliance.
-*Auction: Each player gets a pool of "points" (It doesn't really matter how many; 200 and 213 have been used) and each ship except Thraddash is auctioned off to the highest bidder. Details of the auction vary.
+==="Crap Fleets"===
-**The order the ships are auctioned in is arbitrary; it can be done in alphabetical order or ordered by original point cost, or in other ways.
-**What happens if the two players try to bid the same amount can be ambiguous. The cleanest solution is to have the players take turns bidding, the first player to make the high bid buy the ship, and the players also take turns making the first bid on each ship.
+In order for some of the less commonly used ships to see use, some players like to play with each player designing the other player's fleet (of course, to a minimum of 200 points rather than a maximum.)
-**Sometimes a third player acts as auction master, but it isn't necessary if the rules are specified beforehand.
-*14 ships no dupes: Essentially any team you can build, as long as it doesn't have two of the same ship on it. Of course, cheap ships will rarely be played, but costly, somewhat overpriced ships (such as Chenjesu and Orz) will see play. Combining this with the "design your opponent's fleet" rule could also be interesting.
+*This can be played with various point totals or allowances for duplicate ships, although duplicates can lead to undesirable results such as a fleet full of [[Drone|Drones]].
-*Enemy chosen fleet: Connect to your opponent and build him a fleet worth at least 200 points.
-*Point loss system: The victor is whoever loses the least amount of points, not whoever beats all the opponent's ships. So for example, if Bob destroys Bill's fleet, Bob loses 134 points and Bill loses 62 points, Bill wins. There is no limit to how many ships you can have and no points limit.
+*Each player designing half of each team is also used, as is each player selecting one ship that the other cannot alter.
-=== Silly rulesets (also ideas for handicap) ===
+Caffeine will generally improve play, while alcohol will dumb it down.
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Shiver: /* Rules that use point costs */

2011-01-03T22:44:02Z

Rules that use point costs

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	**In a serious game or tournament you are expected to build your team before connecting, so that you can't base your ship choices on what ships are on your opponent's team.		**In a serious game or tournament you are expected to build your team before connecting, so that you can't base your ship choices on what ships are on your opponent's team.
	**Some players and tournament hosts ban Thraddash, considering it unsportsmanlike. The ship has the potential to stall matches and upset balance if played to its limit.		**Some players and tournament hosts ban Thraddash, considering it unsportsmanlike. The ship has the potential to stall matches and upset balance if played to its limit.
	*~~Other point~~ limits can be used, although ~~it's less common, since too much fewer than 200 tends to lead to the~~ outcome of ~~the match being determined~~ by ~~the teams used~~, ~~and too much more doesn~~'t leave much room for choice in ~~team design~~.		*Point limits other than 200 can be used, although they are uncommon. The outcome of a lower point game is drastically affected by each player's fleet composition, while higher point games don't leave much room for choice in fleet selection.
	*The game can also be played simply with a point limit and no restriction on duplicate ships; this has fallen out of use since the result depends mostly on the teams used~~, especially since certain anomalous teams (such as ones with many Chmmr) are very likely~~ to ~~maul a "well balanced" team. A limit of two ships of each type is occasionally played~~.		*The game can also be played simply with a point limit and no restriction on duplicate ships; this has fallen out of use since the result depends mostly on the teams used. Certain ship types tend to dominate most others.
	*In order to reasonably allow more of the same ship, players can take turns picking ships rather than coming with predetermined fleets.		*In order to reasonably allow more of the same ship, players can take turns picking ships rather than coming with predetermined fleets.
	**Picking one ship at a time creates the strange effect of picking cheap ships first in order to have more points left to counter. A probably better way is to pick a certain number of points worth. For instance, the first player could pick at 100 points worth of ships, then the second player design his entire fleet, then the first player pick the remainder of his fleet.		**Picking one ship at a time creates the strange effect of picking cheap ships first in order to have more points left to counter. A probably better way is to pick a certain number of points worth. For instance, the first player could pick at 100 points worth of ships, then the second player design his entire fleet, then the first player pick the remainder of his fleet.