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Zeracles: just putting back some text which seems have disappeared amidst edits somehow, importantly, relax, I dropped the issue!

2007-11-01T19:34:54Z

just putting back some text which seems have disappeared amidst edits somehow, importantly, relax, I dropped the issue!

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	:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)		:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)

			:::Well, the naming issue was settled long ago (that's why I said "fair enough" not less than four posts ago). I was also thinking that the other wiki might be a good place for all that speculation (so instead of just removing it, possibly annoying authors, simply ship it elsewhere). But if you say you've abandoned it . . . --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 19:57, 1 November 2007 (CET)

	::::Valaggar makes a better argument for it than I did. I will admit though, the whole naming issue with the Ur-Quan was complicated by the discovery of the existence of the Kohr-Ah. I guess when it comes to the name ''Ur-Quan'', what comes to mind for me is ''Green Ur-Quan'' largely because that's how I knew them initially and that's how I refer to their ships, never ''Kzer-Za Dreadnought''. Perhaps the only ''true'' Ur-Quan was the initial Brown Ur-Quan, before the Dynarri split them. Who knows what their ships looked like, especially considering they were described as the ''scouts'' of the Milieu, perhaps as small as Shofixti ships, given comparative species sizes. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 20:19, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::::Valaggar makes a better argument for it than I did. I will admit though, the whole naming issue with the Ur-Quan was complicated by the discovery of the existence of the Kohr-Ah. I guess when it comes to the name ''Ur-Quan'', what comes to mind for me is ''Green Ur-Quan'' largely because that's how I knew them initially and that's how I refer to their ships, never ''Kzer-Za Dreadnought''. Perhaps the only ''true'' Ur-Quan was the initial Brown Ur-Quan, before the Dynarri split them. Who knows what their ships looked like, especially considering they were described as the ''scouts'' of the Milieu, perhaps as small as Shofixti ships, given comparative species sizes. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 20:19, 1 November 2007 (CET)

PsiPhi: reply to Val and Z.

2007-11-01T19:19:36Z

reply to Val and Z.

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	:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)		:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)

	:::~~Well~~, the naming issue was ~~settled long ago (~~that's ~~why~~ I ~~said "fair enough" not less than four posts ago)~~. I was ~~also thinking that~~ the ~~other wiki might be a good place for all that speculation (so instead~~ of ~~just removing it~~, ~~possibly annoying authors~~, ~~simply ship it elsewhere). But if you say you've abandoned it . .~~ . --[[User:~~Zeracles~~\|~~Zeracles~~]] 19~~:57~~, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::::Valaggar makes a better argument for it than I did. I will admit though, the whole naming issue with the Ur-Quan was complicated by the discovery of the existence of the Kohr-Ah. I guess when it comes to the name ''Ur-Quan'', what comes to mind for me is ''Green Ur-Quan'' largely because that's how I knew them initially and that's how I refer to their ships, never ''Kzer-Za Dreadnought''. Perhaps the only ''true'' Ur-Quan was the initial Brown Ur-Quan, before the Dynarri split them. Who knows what their ships looked like, especially considering they were described as the ''scouts'' of the Milieu, perhaps as small as Shofixti ships, given comparative species sizes. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 20:19, 1 November 2007 (CET)

Zeracles: reply

2007-11-01T18:57:48Z

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	:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)		:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)

			:::Well, the naming issue was settled long ago (that's why I said "fair enough" not less than four posts ago). I was also thinking that the other wiki might be a good place for all that speculation (so instead of just removing it, possibly annoying authors, simply ship it elsewhere). But if you say you've abandoned it . . . --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 19:57, 1 November 2007 (CET)

Valaggar: /* Alphabetical Order */ reply

2007-11-01T18:09:32Z

Alphabetical Order: reply

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	::I don't think it's that simple - this isn't how I always interpreted the title. The Kohr-Ah can be masters of the galaxy when everyone else is dead. I know your interpretation is the one intended at the beginning of the game (mentioned this way by Commander Hayes), but I thought it was part of the plot development of the game to discover this more sinister side to Ur-Quan dominion. I wonder if anyone else saw it my way. But this is heading in the direction of philosophy. I thought it would be cool to have a page on the philosophy of SC, since it is such a plot-driven game, but I fear that such a page's existence would be even more tenuous than that of the [[Game Humor\|humour page]]. So I'm not seriously suggesting it, just to pre-empt SvdB in case. This sort of thing might be better suited somewhere else or in Valaggar's wiki (which BTW Val, I think could be an interesting idea), but I haven't thought about it. Just keeping score on that humour page, I don't think we ever resolved that either way. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 18:11, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::I don't think it's that simple - this isn't how I always interpreted the title. The Kohr-Ah can be masters of the galaxy when everyone else is dead. I know your interpretation is the one intended at the beginning of the game (mentioned this way by Commander Hayes), but I thought it was part of the plot development of the game to discover this more sinister side to Ur-Quan dominion. I wonder if anyone else saw it my way. But this is heading in the direction of philosophy. I thought it would be cool to have a page on the philosophy of SC, since it is such a plot-driven game, but I fear that such a page's existence would be even more tenuous than that of the [[Game Humor\|humour page]]. So I'm not seriously suggesting it, just to pre-empt SvdB in case. This sort of thing might be better suited somewhere else or in Valaggar's wiki (which BTW Val, I think could be an interesting idea), but I haven't thought about it. Just keeping score on that humour page, I don't think we ever resolved that either way. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 18:11, 1 November 2007 (CET)

			:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)

Zeracles: the meaning of UQM

2007-11-01T17:11:35Z

the meaning of UQM

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	::Well, it is called The Ur-Quan Masters (and not the Kzer-Za Masters; though that would be more correct; the Kohr-Ah are not looking to be anyones master, just their exterminator) for a reason. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 02:46, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::Well, it is called The Ur-Quan Masters (and not the Kzer-Za Masters; though that would be more correct; the Kohr-Ah are not looking to be anyones master, just their exterminator) for a reason. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 02:46, 1 November 2007 (CET)

			::I don't think it's that simple - this isn't how I always interpreted the title. The Kohr-Ah can be masters of the galaxy when everyone else is dead. I know your interpretation is the one intended at the beginning of the game (mentioned this way by Commander Hayes), but I thought it was part of the plot development of the game to discover this more sinister side to Ur-Quan dominion. I wonder if anyone else saw it my way. But this is heading in the direction of philosophy. I thought it would be cool to have a page on the philosophy of SC, since it is such a plot-driven game, but I fear that such a page's existence would be even more tenuous than that of the [[Game Humor\|humour page]]. So I'm not seriously suggesting it, just to pre-empt SvdB in case. This sort of thing might be better suited somewhere else or in Valaggar's wiki (which BTW Val, I think could be an interesting idea), but I haven't thought about it. Just keeping score on that humour page, I don't think we ever resolved that either way. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 18:11, 1 November 2007 (CET)

PsiPhi: forgot to log in

2007-11-01T01:46:55Z

forgot to log in

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	:Fair enough :) I never played sc1 so I've always found this just plain imprecise. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 23:13, 31 October 2007 (CET)		:Fair enough :) I never played sc1 so I've always found this just plain imprecise. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 23:13, 31 October 2007 (CET)

	::Well, it is called The Ur-Quan Masters (and not the Kzer-Za Masters; though that would be more correct; the Kohr-Ah are not looking to be anyones master, just their exterminator) for a reason. --[[User:~~69.121.142.195~~\|~~69.121.142.195~~]] 02:43, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::Well, it is called The Ur-Quan Masters (and not the Kzer-Za Masters; though that would be more correct; the Kohr-Ah are not looking to be anyones master, just their exterminator) for a reason. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 02:46, 1 November 2007 (CET)

69.121.142.195: /* Alphabetical Order */ reply to Z.

2007-11-01T01:43:26Z

Alphabetical Order: reply to Z.

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	:Fair enough :) I never played sc1 so I've always found this just plain imprecise. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 23:13, 31 October 2007 (CET)		:Fair enough :) I never played sc1 so I've always found this just plain imprecise. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 23:13, 31 October 2007 (CET)

			::Well, it is called The Ur-Quan Masters (and not the Kzer-Za Masters; though that would be more correct; the Kohr-Ah are not looking to be anyones master, just their exterminator) for a reason. --[[User:69.121.142.195\|69.121.142.195]] 02:43, 1 November 2007 (CET)

Zeracles: fair enough

2007-10-31T22:13:13Z

fair enough

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	:Actually Zeracles, I've been leaving the ones that say Ur-Quan alone, but directing them to Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. Because of players' familiarity with the Ur-Quan's from SC1 being the "Ur-Quan", if a person put "Ur-Quan" when they are obviously referring to the "Ur-Quan Kzer-Za", especially when listed before the ship name, I figured why mess with it. I'm going to put that as <nowiki>[[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za\|Ur-Quan]]</nowiki>, if you don't mind, keeping the original writer's intention. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 22:48, 31 October 2007 (CET)		:Actually Zeracles, I've been leaving the ones that say Ur-Quan alone, but directing them to Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. Because of players' familiarity with the Ur-Quan's from SC1 being the "Ur-Quan", if a person put "Ur-Quan" when they are obviously referring to the "Ur-Quan Kzer-Za", especially when listed before the ship name, I figured why mess with it. I'm going to put that as <nowiki>[[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za\|Ur-Quan]]</nowiki>, if you don't mind, keeping the original writer's intention. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 22:48, 31 October 2007 (CET)

			:Fair enough :) I never played sc1 so I've always found this just plain imprecise. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 23:13, 31 October 2007 (CET)

PsiPhi: /* Alphabetical Order */ reply to Zeracles

2007-10-31T21:48:40Z

Alphabetical Order: reply to Zeracles

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	==Alphabetical Order==		==Alphabetical Order==
	I assume that after fixing the Ur-Quan wikis, the ordering should be adjusted to retain alphabetical order. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 22:38, 31 October 2007 (CET)		I assume that after fixing the Ur-Quan wikis, the ordering should be adjusted to retain alphabetical order. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 22:38, 31 October 2007 (CET)

			:Actually Zeracles, I've been leaving the ones that say Ur-Quan alone, but directing them to Ur-Quan Kzer-Za. Because of players' familiarity with the Ur-Quan's from SC1 being the "Ur-Quan", if a person put "Ur-Quan" when they are obviously referring to the "Ur-Quan Kzer-Za", especially when listed before the ship name, I figured why mess with it. I'm going to put that as <nowiki>[[Ur-Quan Kzer-Za\|Ur-Quan]]</nowiki>, if you don't mind, keeping the original writer's intention. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 22:48, 31 October 2007 (CET)

Zeracles: alphabetical order

2007-10-31T21:38:04Z

alphabetical order

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	:Sure, why not. [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:01, 31 October 2007 (CET)		:Sure, why not. [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:01, 31 October 2007 (CET)

			==Alphabetical Order==
			I assume that after fixing the Ur-Quan wikis, the ordering should be adjusted to retain alphabetical order. --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 22:38, 31 October 2007 (CET)

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	:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)		:::Unfortunately, the interest in my wiki was really small, so I've abandoned it. By the was, as to whether the ship should be named "Ur-Quan Dreadnought" or "[Ur-Quan] Kzer-Za Dreadnought" — the DOS version uses "Ur-Quan Dreadnought", so I think we're better off using that name as well (besides, most in-game characters refer to the Kzer-Za as "Ur-Quan"). [[User:Valaggar\|Valaggar]] 19:09, 1 November 2007 (CET)

			:::Well, the naming issue was settled long ago (that's why I said "fair enough" not less than four posts ago). I was also thinking that the other wiki might be a good place for all that speculation (so instead of just removing it, possibly annoying authors, simply ship it elsewhere). But if you say you've abandoned it . . . --[[User:Zeracles\|Zeracles]] 19:57, 1 November 2007 (CET)

	::::Valaggar makes a better argument for it than I did. I will admit though, the whole naming issue with the Ur-Quan was complicated by the discovery of the existence of the Kohr-Ah. I guess when it comes to the name ''Ur-Quan'', what comes to mind for me is ''Green Ur-Quan'' largely because that's how I knew them initially and that's how I refer to their ships, never ''Kzer-Za Dreadnought''. Perhaps the only ''true'' Ur-Quan was the initial Brown Ur-Quan, before the Dynarri split them. Who knows what their ships looked like, especially considering they were described as the ''scouts'' of the Milieu, perhaps as small as Shofixti ships, given comparative species sizes. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 20:19, 1 November 2007 (CET)		::::Valaggar makes a better argument for it than I did. I will admit though, the whole naming issue with the Ur-Quan was complicated by the discovery of the existence of the Kohr-Ah. I guess when it comes to the name ''Ur-Quan'', what comes to mind for me is ''Green Ur-Quan'' largely because that's how I knew them initially and that's how I refer to their ships, never ''Kzer-Za Dreadnought''. Perhaps the only ''true'' Ur-Quan was the initial Brown Ur-Quan, before the Dynarri split them. Who knows what their ships looked like, especially considering they were described as the ''scouts'' of the Milieu, perhaps as small as Shofixti ships, given comparative species sizes. --[[User:PsiPhi\|PsiPhi]] 20:19, 1 November 2007 (CET)