Talk:Relativity effect - Revision history

Svdb: /* Silly */ reply

2007-06-02T21:02:05Z

Silly: reply

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	:Well, it's been awhile. Any objections if I move (and trim and readjust) this to '''Combat mechanics'''? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:52, 12 May 2007 (CEST)		:Well, it's been awhile. Any objections if I move (and trim and readjust) this to '''Combat mechanics'''? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:52, 12 May 2007 (CEST)
			::Not from me, in fact, I support this. — [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 23:02, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: /* Silly */ whoops, forgot to log in

2007-05-12T05:52:08Z

Silly: whoops, forgot to log in

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	:I agree. The term "Relativity effect" is never used in canon - even more reason not to have a page on this. Perhaps rename it '''Combat mechanics''' or '''Melee mechanics''' or '''Melee physics''' and keep just the final paragraph (the only one that really deals with the game). The only other thing to add would then be the speed limit effect and planet interaction type stuff (gravity and collisions). I think I fleshed out the page with the real world stuff mainly out of annoyance - I hate it when people try to pass off bad physics as the real deal. But I promise not to kick and scream and throw a fit if it's deleted. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 02:18, 26 April 2007 (CEST)		:I agree. The term "Relativity effect" is never used in canon - even more reason not to have a page on this. Perhaps rename it '''Combat mechanics''' or '''Melee mechanics''' or '''Melee physics''' and keep just the final paragraph (the only one that really deals with the game). The only other thing to add would then be the speed limit effect and planet interaction type stuff (gravity and collisions). I think I fleshed out the page with the real world stuff mainly out of annoyance - I hate it when people try to pass off bad physics as the real deal. But I promise not to kick and scream and throw a fit if it's deleted. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 02:18, 26 April 2007 (CEST)

	:Well, it's been awhile. Any objections if I move (and trim and readjust) this to '''Combat mechanics'''? --[[User:~~67.186.215.9~~\|~~67.186.215.9~~]] 07:51, 12 May 2007 (CEST)		:Well, it's been awhile. Any objections if I move (and trim and readjust) this to '''Combat mechanics'''? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:52, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

67.186.215.9: /* Silly */ objections to move?

2007-05-12T05:51:26Z

Silly: objections to move?

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	:I agree. The term "Relativity effect" is never used in canon - even more reason not to have a page on this. Perhaps rename it '''Combat mechanics''' or '''Melee mechanics''' or '''Melee physics''' and keep just the final paragraph (the only one that really deals with the game). The only other thing to add would then be the speed limit effect and planet interaction type stuff (gravity and collisions). I think I fleshed out the page with the real world stuff mainly out of annoyance - I hate it when people try to pass off bad physics as the real deal. But I promise not to kick and scream and throw a fit if it's deleted. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 02:18, 26 April 2007 (CEST)		:I agree. The term "Relativity effect" is never used in canon - even more reason not to have a page on this. Perhaps rename it '''Combat mechanics''' or '''Melee mechanics''' or '''Melee physics''' and keep just the final paragraph (the only one that really deals with the game). The only other thing to add would then be the speed limit effect and planet interaction type stuff (gravity and collisions). I think I fleshed out the page with the real world stuff mainly out of annoyance - I hate it when people try to pass off bad physics as the real deal. But I promise not to kick and scream and throw a fit if it's deleted. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 02:18, 26 April 2007 (CEST)

			:Well, it's been awhile. Any objections if I move (and trim and readjust) this to '''Combat mechanics'''? --[[User:67.186.215.9\|67.186.215.9]] 07:51, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: /* Silly */ agreement

2007-04-26T00:18:52Z

Silly: agreement

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	I think this entire page is rather silly. It might be appropriate to discuss the SC combat mechanics somewhere, but all this talk about relativity in real life has no business here, imho. — [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 16:27, 25 April 2007 (CEST)		I think this entire page is rather silly. It might be appropriate to discuss the SC combat mechanics somewhere, but all this talk about relativity in real life has no business here, imho. — [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 16:27, 25 April 2007 (CEST)

			:I agree. The term "Relativity effect" is never used in canon - even more reason not to have a page on this. Perhaps rename it '''Combat mechanics''' or '''Melee mechanics''' or '''Melee physics''' and keep just the final paragraph (the only one that really deals with the game). The only other thing to add would then be the speed limit effect and planet interaction type stuff (gravity and collisions). I think I fleshed out the page with the real world stuff mainly out of annoyance - I hate it when people try to pass off bad physics as the real deal. But I promise not to kick and scream and throw a fit if it's deleted. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 02:18, 26 April 2007 (CEST)

Svdb: Silly

2007-04-25T14:27:07Z

Silly

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	I tried to rewrite this page to be a bit more accurate. I tried to not go too deep into newtonian physics and relativistic physics, but mentioned them to explain how SC physics relates. It's still real rough so edit at leisure - I'm going to have to let it sit a while before I try to revise it. [[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:37, 26 Aug 2005 (CEST)		I tried to rewrite this page to be a bit more accurate. I tried to not go too deep into newtonian physics and relativistic physics, but mentioned them to explain how SC physics relates. It's still real rough so edit at leisure - I'm going to have to let it sit a while before I try to revise it. [[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:37, 26 Aug 2005 (CEST)

			== Silly ==

			I think this entire page is rather silly. It might be appropriate to discuss the SC combat mechanics somewhere, but all this talk about relativity in real life has no business here, imho. — [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 16:27, 25 April 2007 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter at 05:37, 26 August 2005

2005-08-26T05:37:27Z

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	::Erm, right. It's just for ships. If you add speed to the ship, by pressing forward, or by bumping into an asteroid, the ships behaves as described above. Projectiles (at least the ones for which I've checked the source) get a fixed speed at launch time, which isn't related to the ship's speed.		::Erm, right. It's just for ships. If you add speed to the ship, by pressing forward, or by bumping into an asteroid, the ships behaves as described above. Projectiles (at least the ones for which I've checked the source) get a fixed speed at launch time, which isn't related to the ship's speed.
	:: — SvdB 16:08, 13 Aug 2005 (CEST)		:: — SvdB 16:08, 13 Aug 2005 (CEST)

			I tried to rewrite this page to be a bit more accurate. I tried to not go too deep into newtonian physics and relativistic physics, but mentioned them to explain how SC physics relates. It's still real rough so edit at leisure - I'm going to have to let it sit a while before I try to revise it. [[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:37, 26 Aug 2005 (CEST)

Svdb: reply

2005-08-13T14:08:12Z

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	:Hey SvdB, are you sure about that. I've being getting empirical data that for projectiles, their speed in the is the same regardless of how fast the ship is going. I did it with the Chenjesu Broodhome and timed how long it took for the crystal projectile to wrap all the way around for the following cases: stationary broodhome, fired forward-broodhome at max speed, fired backwards-broodhome at max speed. But maybe there's more going on in the code than I'm guessing. How exactly does the code determine a projectile's speed? I'd like to figure this out before editing this page.		:Hey SvdB, are you sure about that. I've being getting empirical data that for projectiles, their speed in the is the same regardless of how fast the ship is going. I did it with the Chenjesu Broodhome and timed how long it took for the crystal projectile to wrap all the way around for the following cases: stationary broodhome, fired forward-broodhome at max speed, fired backwards-broodhome at max speed. But maybe there's more going on in the code than I'm guessing. How exactly does the code determine a projectile's speed? I'd like to figure this out before editing this page.

			::Erm, right. It's just for ships. If you add speed to the ship, by pressing forward, or by bumping into an asteroid, the ships behaves as described above. Projectiles (at least the ones for which I've checked the source) get a fixed speed at launch time, which isn't related to the ship's speed.
			:: — SvdB 16:08, 13 Aug 2005 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: question for SvdB

2005-08-12T23:02:55Z

question for SvdB

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	-- [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 00:42, 22 Nov 2004 (CET)		-- [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 00:42, 22 Nov 2004 (CET)

			:Hey SvdB, are you sure about that. I've being getting empirical data that for projectiles, their speed in the is the same regardless of how fast the ship is going. I did it with the Chenjesu Broodhome and timed how long it took for the crystal projectile to wrap all the way around for the following cases: stationary broodhome, fired forward-broodhome at max speed, fired backwards-broodhome at max speed. But maybe there's more going on in the code than I'm guessing. How exactly does the code determine a projectile's speed? I'd like to figure this out before editing this page.

Svdb: relativistic adding of speeds

2004-11-21T23:42:21Z

relativistic adding of speeds

New page

"If the theory of relativity would apply, the plasmoid would be fired with the start speed plus ship speed."
That's not true. That's using classical mechanics. With relativity, to add two speeds v1 and v2, you'd have to do this:

vcombined = (v1 + v2) / (1 + (v1 * v2) / C2)

where C is the speed of light.

In the game classical mechanics are used, with an cap on the maximum speed (wrt the viewer).

-- [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 00:42, 22 Nov 2004 (CET)