Talk:Ur-Quan Slave War - Revision history

Svdb: reply

2006-09-25T15:52:30Z

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	:::Sounds good to me. I'll try and make the changes in a minute. My only concern would be that "Ur-Quan Conflict" still be included as an alternate name - if we need a short clause to say that doesn't refer to the Doctrinal conflict then so be it, but it is a canon name. Any suggestion on a different name for "Second War"? It's not a war in the true sense of the word, more of a guerilla-type resistance with a suicide mission climax. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:54, 25 September 2006 (CEST)		:::Sounds good to me. I'll try and make the changes in a minute. My only concern would be that "Ur-Quan Conflict" still be included as an alternate name - if we need a short clause to say that doesn't refer to the Doctrinal conflict then so be it, but it is a canon name. Any suggestion on a different name for "Second War"? It's not a war in the true sense of the word, more of a guerilla-type resistance with a suicide mission climax. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:54, 25 September 2006 (CEST)

			::::I guess you're right about "Ur-Quan Conflict". If the page redirects to "Ur-Quan Slave War", then there should be no confusion, so no need for such a clause.
			::::Do we really need a name for the "Second War"? When refering to it "The events of Star Control II" would probably do. — [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 17:52, 25 September 2006 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: Talk:First War moved to Talk:Ur-Quan Slave War: more in line with canon references

2006-09-25T05:56:12Z

Talk:First War moved to Talk:Ur-Quan Slave War: more in line with canon references

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Fyzixfighter: /* Source of term */ sounds good

2006-09-25T05:54:56Z

Source of term: sounds good

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	::"Ur-Quan Conflict" would be too confusing, considering the Doctrinal Conflict, so I'm for "Ur-Quan Slave War" as the page title and having "Great War", "Crucible of Sentience" and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as redirects. If "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" really have no basis in canon, then they shouldn't even be redirects imho, considering that even colloquially among fans I haven't seen them used.		::"Ur-Quan Conflict" would be too confusing, considering the Doctrinal Conflict, so I'm for "Ur-Quan Slave War" as the page title and having "Great War", "Crucible of Sentience" and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as redirects. If "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" really have no basis in canon, then they shouldn't even be redirects imho, considering that even colloquially among fans I haven't seen them used.
	::I wouldn't replay SC3 for this, as if "First War" didn't come from any of the canon stuff, it really doesn't matter where it did come from. — [[User:2001:610:1108:5214::3\|2001:610:1108:5214::3]] 04:01, 24 September 2006 (CEST)		::I wouldn't replay SC3 for this, as if "First War" didn't come from any of the canon stuff, it really doesn't matter where it did come from. — [[User:2001:610:1108:5214::3\|2001:610:1108:5214::3]] 04:01, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

			:::Sounds good to me. I'll try and make the changes in a minute. My only concern would be that "Ur-Quan Conflict" still be included as an alternate name - if we need a short clause to say that doesn't refer to the Doctrinal conflict then so be it, but it is a canon name. Any suggestion on a different name for "Second War"? It's not a war in the true sense of the word, more of a guerilla-type resistance with a suicide mission climax. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 07:54, 25 September 2006 (CEST)

2001:610:1108:5214::3: reply

2006-09-24T02:01:28Z

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	:I'd be for renaming this as the '''Ur-Quan Conflict''' or '''Ur-Quan Slave War''' as those are the two names that have the most support from the canon; listing "War", "Great War", and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as other names used by those involved; and relegating the terms "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" to colloquial names for the war. It would also be nice to go through and remove all the first war references in other articles to be more in line with this nomenclature. I'm in the process of reinstalling and replaying sc3 (aka [[Excruciator]]) to see if they use those terms there, but I doubt it. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 03:06, 24 September 2006 (CEST)		:I'd be for renaming this as the '''Ur-Quan Conflict''' or '''Ur-Quan Slave War''' as those are the two names that have the most support from the canon; listing "War", "Great War", and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as other names used by those involved; and relegating the terms "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" to colloquial names for the war. It would also be nice to go through and remove all the first war references in other articles to be more in line with this nomenclature. I'm in the process of reinstalling and replaying sc3 (aka [[Excruciator]]) to see if they use those terms there, but I doubt it. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 03:06, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

			::"Ur-Quan Conflict" would be too confusing, considering the Doctrinal Conflict, so I'm for "Ur-Quan Slave War" as the page title and having "Great War", "Crucible of Sentience" and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as redirects. If "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" really have no basis in canon, then they shouldn't even be redirects imho, considering that even colloquially among fans I haven't seen them used.
			::I wouldn't replay SC3 for this, as if "First War" didn't come from any of the canon stuff, it really doesn't matter where it did come from. — [[User:2001:610:1108:5214::3\|2001:610:1108:5214::3]] 04:01, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: let's rename it then

2006-09-24T01:06:00Z

let's rename it then

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			==Source of term==
	Where does this term "First War" come from? I can find no references. And likewise "Second War"; the events in SC2 aren't even a real war as the first one.		Where does this term "First War" come from? I can find no references. And likewise "Second War"; the events in SC2 aren't even a real war as the first one.
	The only names I could find are "Ur-Quan slave war" and "Crucible of Sentience", from the sc2 manual, and the Yehat talk about the "Great War [against the Mycons]", which probably refers to the same war, as the rebels use the same term when talking about VUX tactics. The captain also talks about "the War" (with a capital W).		The only names I could find are "Ur-Quan slave war" and "Crucible of Sentience", from the sc2 manual, and the Yehat talk about the "Great War [against the Mycons]", which probably refers to the same war, as the rebels use the same term when talking about VUX tactics. The captain also talks about "the War" (with a capital W).
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	:ZEX also refers to it as the "Great War". Likewise, Talana and Hayes also say "the War" with a capital W. The only other canon name that I can find is "Ur-Quan Conflict" from the sc1 title screen. I wonder if the terms come from something in sc3? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 09:58, 16 September 2006 (CEST)		:ZEX also refers to it as the "Great War". Likewise, Talana and Hayes also say "the War" with a capital W. The only other canon name that I can find is "Ur-Quan Conflict" from the sc1 title screen. I wonder if the terms come from something in sc3? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 09:58, 16 September 2006 (CEST)

			:I'd be for renaming this as the '''Ur-Quan Conflict''' or '''Ur-Quan Slave War''' as those are the two names that have the most support from the canon; listing "War", "Great War", and "Great Crucible of Sentience" as other names used by those involved; and relegating the terms "First War" and "First War of the Alliance" to colloquial names for the war. It would also be nice to go through and remove all the first war references in other articles to be more in line with this nomenclature. I'm in the process of reinstalling and replaying sc3 (aka [[Excruciator]]) to see if they use those terms there, but I doubt it. --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 03:06, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

Fyzixfighter: short reply

2006-09-16T07:58:48Z

short reply

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	The only names I could find are "Ur-Quan slave war" and "Crucible of Sentience", from the sc2 manual, and the Yehat talk about the "Great War [against the Mycons]", which probably refers to the same war, as the rebels use the same term when talking about VUX tactics. The captain also talks about "the War" (with a capital W).		The only names I could find are "Ur-Quan slave war" and "Crucible of Sentience", from the sc2 manual, and the Yehat talk about the "Great War [against the Mycons]", which probably refers to the same war, as the rebels use the same term when talking about VUX tactics. The captain also talks about "the War" (with a capital W).
	— [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 08:03, 16 September 2006 (CEST)		— [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 08:03, 16 September 2006 (CEST)

			:ZEX also refers to it as the "Great War". Likewise, Talana and Hayes also say "the War" with a capital W. The only other canon name that I can find is "Ur-Quan Conflict" from the sc1 title screen. I wonder if the terms come from something in sc3? --[[User:Fyzixfighter\|Fyzixfighter]] 09:58, 16 September 2006 (CEST)

Svdb: "FIrst War"?

2006-09-16T06:03:13Z

"FIrst War"?

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	:Might be a good idea. As I recall, I just copied the one-sentence blurb from the game.		:Might be a good idea. As I recall, I just copied the one-sentence blurb from the game.
	:-[[User:Fadookie\|Fadookie]] 21:16, 11 Dec 2005 (CET)		:-[[User:Fadookie\|Fadookie]] 21:16, 11 Dec 2005 (CET)


			Where does this term "First War" come from? I can find no references. And likewise "Second War"; the events in SC2 aren't even a real war as the first one.
			The only names I could find are "Ur-Quan slave war" and "Crucible of Sentience", from the sc2 manual, and the Yehat talk about the "Great War [against the Mycons]", which probably refers to the same war, as the rebels use the same term when talking about VUX tactics. The captain also talks about "the War" (with a capital W).
			— [[User:Svdb\|SvdB]] 08:03, 16 September 2006 (CEST)

Fadookie: alignment

2005-12-11T20:16:50Z

alignment

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	:Might be a good idea. As I recall, I just copied the one-sentence blurb from the game.		:Might be a good idea. As I recall, I just copied the one-sentence blurb from the game.
	-[[User:Fadookie\|Fadookie]] 21:16, 11 Dec 2005 (CET)		:-[[User:Fadookie\|Fadookie]] 21:16, 11 Dec 2005 (CET)

Fadookie at 20:16, 11 December 2005

2005-12-11T20:16:28Z

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	I'd like to recommend that someone flesh out the list of SC1 campaigns with more information than the one-sentence blurbs, and move that to a separate section.		I'd like to recommend that someone flesh out the list of SC1 campaigns with more information than the one-sentence blurbs, and move that to a separate section.

			:Might be a good idea. As I recall, I just copied the one-sentence blurb from the game.
			-[[User:Fadookie\|Fadookie]] 21:16, 11 Dec 2005 (CET)

130.58.225.137 at 16:12, 27 January 2005

2005-01-27T16:12:27Z

New page

I'd like to recommend that someone flesh out the list of SC1 campaigns with more information than the one-sentence blurbs, and move that to a separate section.