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	===What operating systems does [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] run on?===		===What operating systems does [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] run on?===
	Version 0.5 has been tested to run on Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and MacOS X. It also works on ReactOS.		Version 0.5 - 0.7 has been tested to run on Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and MacOS X. It also works on ReactOS.

	A few third party ports, using a modified version of UQM, are listed on the [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] page.		A few third party ports, using a modified version of UQM, are listed on the [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] page.

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What operating systems does The Ur-Quan Masters run on?

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	===What operating systems does [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] run on?===		===What operating systems does [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] run on?===
	Version 0.5 has been tested to run on Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and MacOS X.		Version 0.5 has been tested to run on Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and MacOS X. It also works on ReactOS.

	A few third party ports, using a modified version of UQM, are listed on the [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] page.		A few third party ports, using a modified version of UQM, are listed on the [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] page.

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	See the page [[Version Comparison]].		See the page [[Version Comparison]].

	~~At last~~, ~~smoneoe comes up with~~ the ~~"right" answer!~~		===What features are you going to include?===
			We intend to include the best features of the [[3DO]] version and the PC version. When there is any doubt, we offer both. The user will be able to configure which aspects of the game will match which version. The Ur-Quan Masters will also include optional new music.

			We try to be faithful to the originals; there will be no gameplay changes in the main version. There may be forks that introduce new gameplay though.

	===What about updating the music?===		===What about updating the music?===

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What features are you going to include?

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	See the page [[Version Comparison]].		See the page [[Version Comparison]].

	~~===What features are you going to include?===~~		At last, smoneoe comes up with the "right" answer!
	~~We intend to include the best features of the [[3DO]] version and the PC version. When there is any doubt~~, ~~we offer both. The user will be able to configure which aspects of the game will match which version. The Ur-Quan Masters will also include optional new music.~~

	~~We try to be faithful to the originals; there will be no gameplay changes in~~ the ~~main version. There may be forks that introduce new gameplay though.~~

	===What about updating the music?===		===What about updating the music?===

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	Support might be added one day for MacOS 8/9 too (but it will be much trickier due to a lack of native pre-emptive thread support, so it's more up in the air), and maybe to some other platforms where [http://www.libsdl.org/ SDL] is available.		Support might be added one day for MacOS 8/9 too (but it will be much trickier due to a lack of native pre-emptive thread support, so it's more up in the air), and maybe to some other platforms where [http://www.libsdl.org/ SDL] is available.

	~~Hey~~, ~~good~~ to ~~find someone who aerges~~ with me. ~~GMTA~~.		===Why is pre-emptive thread support necessary?===
			The code we inherited made extensive use of threads, and eliminating this has not been a priority given the target platforms. That said, the thread model in the code we got had nothing whatsoever to do with POSIX. Over the course of the project, the threading code has been refactored to fold most of the game logic into a single thread, but some tasks are intrinsically simpler with threads (notably keeping audio decoding synchronized and ensuring that window-manager events are dealt with in a timely manner). The main game logic uses the call stack to encode what mode the game is in, and where you will go when, say, popping out of a menu. Dethreading the main code so that it can be done as a single loop would thus involve rewriting all the control logic into explicit state-machine code, a major task that would involve heavy modification of the inherited code. Thus, lowering the thread count further has been pushed to "when there aren't way more important things to do".

	===What are the system requirements?===		===What are the system requirements?===

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	Support might be added one day for MacOS 8/9 too (but it will be much trickier due to a lack of native pre-emptive thread support, so it's more up in the air), and maybe to some other platforms where [http://www.libsdl.org/ SDL] is available.		Support might be added one day for MacOS 8/9 too (but it will be much trickier due to a lack of native pre-emptive thread support, so it's more up in the air), and maybe to some other platforms where [http://www.libsdl.org/ SDL] is available.

	~~===Why is pre-emptive thread support necessary?===~~		Hey, good to find someone who aerges with me. GMTA.
	~~The code we inherited made extensive use of threads~~, ~~and eliminating this has not been a priority given the target platforms. That said, the thread model in the code we got had nothing whatsoever~~ to do with POSIX. Over the course of the project, the threading code has been refactored to fold most of the game logic into a single thread, but some tasks are intrinsically simpler with threads (notably keeping audio decoding synchronized and ensuring that window-manager events are dealt with in a timely manner). The main game logic uses the call stack to encode what mode the game is in, and where you will go when, say, popping out of a menu. Dethreading the main code so that it can be done as a single loop would thus involve rewriting all the control logic into explicit state-machine code, a major task that would involve heavy modification of the inherited code. Thus, lowering the thread count further has been pushed to "when there aren't way more important things to do".

	===What are the system requirements?===		===What are the system requirements?===

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	The source code to the PC version has been lost, even to [[Toys For Bob]] itself. This isn't so terrible, though, as the 3DO version has more features than the PC one, and no media has been lost. Also, the [[3DO]]'s screen resolution (320x240) matches the aspect ratios of modern systems better than the PC version's 320x200.		The source code to the PC version has been lost, even to [[Toys For Bob]] itself. This isn't so terrible, though, as the 3DO version has more features than the PC one, and no media has been lost. Also, the [[3DO]]'s screen resolution (320x240) matches the aspect ratios of modern systems better than the PC version's 320x200.

	~~Very true! Makes a change to see soenome spell it out like that~~. :)		===What are the differences between [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] and the PC and [[3DO]] versions of [[Star Control II]]?===
			See the page [[Version Comparison]].

	===What features are you going to include?===		===What features are you going to include?===

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2011-05-27T20:07:55Z

What are the differences between The Ur-Quan Masters and the PC and 3DO versions of Star Control II?

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	The source code to the PC version has been lost, even to [[Toys For Bob]] itself. This isn't so terrible, though, as the 3DO version has more features than the PC one, and no media has been lost. Also, the [[3DO]]'s screen resolution (320x240) matches the aspect ratios of modern systems better than the PC version's 320x200.		The source code to the PC version has been lost, even to [[Toys For Bob]] itself. This isn't so terrible, though, as the 3DO version has more features than the PC one, and no media has been lost. Also, the [[3DO]]'s screen resolution (320x240) matches the aspect ratios of modern systems better than the PC version's 320x200.

	~~===What are the differences between [[The Ur-Quan Masters]] and the PC and [[3DO]] versions of [[Star Control II]]?===~~		Very true! Makes a change to see soenome spell it out like that. :)
	~~See the page [[Version Comparison]]~~.

	===What features are you going to include?===		===What features are you going to include?===

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	The remixed music will be available as separate add-on packs. You can still choose to use the PC or 3DO music if you like.		The remixed music will be available as separate add-on packs. You can still choose to use the PC or 3DO music if you like.

	~~And I thought I was~~ the ~~sensible one~~. ~~Thanks~~ for ~~seittng me straight~~.		===What about updating the graphics?===
			A similar project as with the music could be started for the graphics. This would mean an optional pack with updated graphics. However, there are a couple of obstacles for this:
			*No people have yet stepped forward to start this project.
			*The code can still only use 8 bit graphics. This problem will be addressed at some point in the future, and it would get a higher priority if there were actually people interested in redoing the graphics.

	===What about network play?===		===What about network play?===

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	The remixed music will be available as separate add-on packs. You can still choose to use the PC or 3DO music if you like.		The remixed music will be available as separate add-on packs. You can still choose to use the PC or 3DO music if you like.

	~~===What about updating~~ the ~~graphics?===~~		And I thought I was the sensible one. Thanks for seittng me straight.
	~~A similar project as with the music could be started for the graphics. This would mean an optional pack with updated graphics~~. ~~However, there are a couple of obstacles~~ for ~~this:~~
	*No people have yet stepped forward to start this project.
	*The code can still only use 8 bit graphics. This problem will be addressed at some point in the future, and it would get a higher priority if there were actually people interested in redoing the graphics.

	===What about network play?===		===What about network play?===