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Yes, severe damage will be taken, but it comes out better than the naive 'charge' strategy.
 
Yes, severe damage will be taken, but it comes out better than the naive 'charge' strategy.
 
- [[User:Death 999|Death 999]] 13:48, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)
 
- [[User:Death 999|Death 999]] 13:48, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)
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The names X-Wing and Y-Wing can't possibly be canon. Are they?
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--[[User:Shiver|Shiver]] 14:46, 3 September 2008 (CEST)
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:See page 85 in the SC2 PC manual (or page 36 in the 3DO manual). I don't know if it appears anywhere else in the canon, such as the code or dialogue (though I'm pretty sure it's not in the dialogue). --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 21:00, 3 September 2008 (CEST)
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::I see it. Guess we'd better leave it alone. --[[User:Shiver|Shiver]] 08:57, 4 September 2008 (CEST)
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:::It might need a reference in the Notes and references section if it's from a manual. [[User:Valaggar|Valaggar]] 09:20, 4 September 2008 (CEST)
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::::Got it. Someone bringing up the question of whether information is canon or not is probably the best indicator of when to use notes/refs. --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 18:30, 4 September 2008 (CEST)
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==Transformer==
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I propose that the name of this entry be changed to Transformer.  It is both an X and Y Wing, but the title favours only one of those.[[User:Donutcity|Donutcity]] ([[User talk:Donutcity|talk]]) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (CEST)
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:@Donutcity: Welcome, and thanks for cleaning up a lot of the pages. To your proposal, I think it depends on which piece of the official [[canon]] we want to base the page name. If I haven't missed any occurrences, the manuals (SC1 PC, SC2 PC, SC2 3DO) and in-game Chmmr dialogue (text at least, still need to check the audio) use "X-Form" or some variation on it. The 3DO SC2 video and the ComSim image (SC1) use "Transformer". I'm a bit partial to the X-Form name because it's more common and in the Chmmr conversation. I don't think the X in X-Form necessarily has the same meaning as the X in X-Wing, so I don't see it as favoring one or the other. <small> Also you can sign your talk page comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></small> --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] ([[User talk:Fyzixfighter|talk]]) 04:31, 1 July 2015 (CEST)
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@Fyzixfighter: Hi, the Ultranomicon is amazing!  Thanks for clearing this one up for me, my eyes glossed over the glaring difference: X-Form =  X-Wing + Y-Wing.  Makes sense now. But i never played the original Star Control, so idk what the ship was called in-game.  By the time i got on board, "the process" was well underway and gave us the Avatar, which is kind of a big X-Wing with flying Crazy Weasels. [[User:Donutcity|Donutcity]] ([[User talk:Donutcity|talk]]) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (CEST)

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If we include strategies here, then this should include a notice on using the Y-form to accelerate into a charge, then coasting in on the X-form, leaving enough time to recover battery.

Also, is it worth pointing out that X-form vs Ilwrath, though a slugfest slanted against the X-form, still has a good strategy and a bad strategy?

That is, a good strategy is for the X-form to ram the Ilwrath with lasers blazing, then use a touch of thrust coming off the bounce to get a good, medium range while moving away from the Ilwrath, yet tempting the Ilwrath to continue its charge. Ideally, the Ilwrath will have to traverse the 'hot spot' at a low relative velocity.

Yes, severe damage will be taken, but it comes out better than the naive 'charge' strategy. - Death 999 13:48, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)


The names X-Wing and Y-Wing can't possibly be canon. Are they? --Shiver 14:46, 3 September 2008 (CEST)

See page 85 in the SC2 PC manual (or page 36 in the 3DO manual). I don't know if it appears anywhere else in the canon, such as the code or dialogue (though I'm pretty sure it's not in the dialogue). --Fyzixfighter 21:00, 3 September 2008 (CEST)
I see it. Guess we'd better leave it alone. --Shiver 08:57, 4 September 2008 (CEST)
It might need a reference in the Notes and references section if it's from a manual. Valaggar 09:20, 4 September 2008 (CEST)
Got it. Someone bringing up the question of whether information is canon or not is probably the best indicator of when to use notes/refs. --Fyzixfighter 18:30, 4 September 2008 (CEST)

Transformer[edit]

I propose that the name of this entry be changed to Transformer. It is both an X and Y Wing, but the title favours only one of those.Donutcity (talk) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (CEST)

@Donutcity: Welcome, and thanks for cleaning up a lot of the pages. To your proposal, I think it depends on which piece of the official canon we want to base the page name. If I haven't missed any occurrences, the manuals (SC1 PC, SC2 PC, SC2 3DO) and in-game Chmmr dialogue (text at least, still need to check the audio) use "X-Form" or some variation on it. The 3DO SC2 video and the ComSim image (SC1) use "Transformer". I'm a bit partial to the X-Form name because it's more common and in the Chmmr conversation. I don't think the X in X-Form necessarily has the same meaning as the X in X-Wing, so I don't see it as favoring one or the other. Also you can sign your talk page comments with ~~~~ --Fyzixfighter (talk) 04:31, 1 July 2015 (CEST)

@Fyzixfighter: Hi, the Ultranomicon is amazing! Thanks for clearing this one up for me, my eyes glossed over the glaring difference: X-Form = X-Wing + Y-Wing. Makes sense now. But i never played the original Star Control, so idk what the ship was called in-game. By the time i got on board, "the process" was well underway and gave us the Avatar, which is kind of a big X-Wing with flying Crazy Weasels. Donutcity (talk) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (CEST)