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--re: shofixti removal in bmod as soft pkunk counter | --re: shofixti removal in bmod as soft pkunk counter | ||
− | Shofixti may not have as large a chance of killing a pkunk in bmod, but I would still use it against a pkunk. Why? Because it lowers the chance of respawn the next time. That is a useful result to put the shofixti towards, so I would still consider it a soft counter. (You would put the reference next to it to indicate it's for "softening up" at a good price, instead of necessarily winning.) | + | Shofixti may not have as large a chance of killing a pkunk in bmod, but I would still use it against a pkunk. Why? Because it lowers the chance of respawn the next time. That is a useful result to put the shofixti towards, so I would still consider it a soft counter. (You would put the reference next to it to indicate it's for "softening up" at a good price, instead of necessarily winning.)<br /> |
− | [[User:Psydev|Psydev]] ([[User talk:Psydev|talk]]) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST) | + | -[[User:Psydev|Psydev]] ([[User talk:Psydev|talk]]) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST) |
+ | : Shofixti is still not really a soft counter to Pkunk, though it qualifies as an odd match yet. Remember it's also been massively nerfed itself, so it has a much smaller chance of actually destroying Pkunk in the first place. [[User:Oldlaptop|Oldlaptop]] ([[User talk:Oldlaptop|talk]]) 03:52, 21 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
--questions about matchups: | --questions about matchups: | ||
− | I have a lot of questions about match-ups. I don't know how a lot of them turn out. Maybe you guys can help inform me, so I/we can better fill out the counter table. | + | I have a lot of questions about match-ups. I don't know how a lot of them turn out. Maybe you guys can help inform me, so I/we can better fill out the counter table.<br /> |
− | -What is Spathi good against? | + | -What is Spathi good against?<br /> |
− | -What is Thraddash good against? | + | -What is Thraddash good against?<br /> |
− | -What is Supox good against? | + | -What is Supox good against?<br /> |
− | --Who wins? | + | --Who wins?<br /> |
− | -Umgah vs. Vux | + | -Umgah vs. Vux <br /> |
− | -Shofixti vs. ilwrath | + | -Shofixti vs. ilwrath<br /> |
− | -- | + | :Ilwrath beats Shofixti, although it probably takes some damage from the Glory Device. [[User:Oldlaptop|Oldlaptop]] ([[User talk:Oldlaptop|talk]]) 03:55, 21 October 2012 (CEST) |
− | -Does Vux have a chance against pkunk? (e.g. if it's orbiting planet.) | + | |
− | -Is Umgah really a hard counter to Earthling? What if 'ling is speeding from a gravity whip? | + | --Other questions:<br /> |
− | -Could slylandro be considered a soft couner to Kohr-Ah? (or interesting matchup?) | + | -Does Vux have a chance against pkunk? (e.g. if it's orbiting planet.)<br /> |
− | -Could Spathi be considered a hard counter vs. Supox, Syreen & Vux? (or, what is meant by Spathi being a counter to flanking ships?) | + | -Is Umgah really a hard counter to Earthling? What if 'ling is speeding from a gravity whip?<br /> |
− | [[User:Psydev|Psydev]] ([[User talk:Psydev|talk]]) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST) | + | -Could slylandro be considered a soft couner to Kohr-Ah? (or interesting matchup?)<br /> |
+ | -Could Spathi be considered a hard counter vs. Supox, Syreen & Vux? (or, what is meant by Spathi being a counter to flanking ships?)<br /> | ||
+ | -[[User:Psydev|Psydev]] ([[User talk:Psydev|talk]]) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
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+ | Would umgah be considered a soft counter for Chmmr? I did quite a lot of damage with one, and was able to avoid the tractor beam by backzipping. | ||
+ | [[User:Psydev|Psydev]] ([[User talk:Psydev|talk]]) 09:48, 22 October 2012 (CEST) |
Latest revision as of 07:48, 22 October 2012
--re: shofixti removal in bmod as soft pkunk counter
Shofixti may not have as large a chance of killing a pkunk in bmod, but I would still use it against a pkunk. Why? Because it lowers the chance of respawn the next time. That is a useful result to put the shofixti towards, so I would still consider it a soft counter. (You would put the reference next to it to indicate it's for "softening up" at a good price, instead of necessarily winning.)
-Psydev (talk) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST)
- Shofixti is still not really a soft counter to Pkunk, though it qualifies as an odd match yet. Remember it's also been massively nerfed itself, so it has a much smaller chance of actually destroying Pkunk in the first place. Oldlaptop (talk) 03:52, 21 October 2012 (CEST)
--questions about matchups:
I have a lot of questions about match-ups. I don't know how a lot of them turn out. Maybe you guys can help inform me, so I/we can better fill out the counter table.
-What is Spathi good against?
-What is Thraddash good against?
-What is Supox good against?
--Who wins?
-Umgah vs. Vux
-Shofixti vs. ilwrath
- Ilwrath beats Shofixti, although it probably takes some damage from the Glory Device. Oldlaptop (talk) 03:55, 21 October 2012 (CEST)
--Other questions:
-Does Vux have a chance against pkunk? (e.g. if it's orbiting planet.)
-Is Umgah really a hard counter to Earthling? What if 'ling is speeding from a gravity whip?
-Could slylandro be considered a soft couner to Kohr-Ah? (or interesting matchup?)
-Could Spathi be considered a hard counter vs. Supox, Syreen & Vux? (or, what is meant by Spathi being a counter to flanking ships?)
-Psydev (talk) 03:45, 21 October 2012 (CEST)
Would umgah be considered a soft counter for Chmmr? I did quite a lot of damage with one, and was able to avoid the tractor beam by backzipping. Psydev (talk) 09:48, 22 October 2012 (CEST)