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Interesting ideas about the nature of light and the physics in hyperspace.  I made s light change to keep the physics consistent.  If the speed of light is different in hyperspace, we really should only expect the wavelengths to go longer and not the frequency to get higher.  Otherwise how do you determine whether you red shift or blueshift.  A good analogy would be changing the density of air to change the speed of sound.  The pitch of a guitar string goes up because the wavelength changes but the frequency is the same.  I would think the same would be true as we manipulate the 'quantum ether' that determines the speed of light.  Also, if we could flesh out inter-hyperspace medium and the analogy to microwave and cosmic background radiation.  The two are different phenomenon.  Interstellar hydrogen radiates in a very specific band - 21 cm - deep in the microwave, while cosmic background radiation is blackbody radiation from the cooling of the universe since the big bang.  If you want the medium to radiate across the spectrum, probably the best thing to do is to have it radiate thermally at some temperature.  We could also do away with the medium entirely and have the brane of hyperspace be at a different temperature than TrueSpace, with a blackbody spectrum that peaks in the red spectrum (or the equivalent of the red spectrum for the different speed of light). [[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 05:43, 28 Jan 2005 (CET)
 
Interesting ideas about the nature of light and the physics in hyperspace.  I made s light change to keep the physics consistent.  If the speed of light is different in hyperspace, we really should only expect the wavelengths to go longer and not the frequency to get higher.  Otherwise how do you determine whether you red shift or blueshift.  A good analogy would be changing the density of air to change the speed of sound.  The pitch of a guitar string goes up because the wavelength changes but the frequency is the same.  I would think the same would be true as we manipulate the 'quantum ether' that determines the speed of light.  Also, if we could flesh out inter-hyperspace medium and the analogy to microwave and cosmic background radiation.  The two are different phenomenon.  Interstellar hydrogen radiates in a very specific band - 21 cm - deep in the microwave, while cosmic background radiation is blackbody radiation from the cooling of the universe since the big bang.  If you want the medium to radiate across the spectrum, probably the best thing to do is to have it radiate thermally at some temperature.  We could also do away with the medium entirely and have the brane of hyperspace be at a different temperature than TrueSpace, with a blackbody spectrum that peaks in the red spectrum (or the equivalent of the red spectrum for the different speed of light). [[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 05:43, 28 Jan 2005 (CET)
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::Interesting. What I was trying to do was mess with the description to fit TFB's rather vague language about the "speed of light being different in HyperSpace" causing a "redshift" as well as maintaining an "invisible force" that slowls things down in HyperSpace. The reason for there being some sort of medium is less the red glow and more that there's something that yanks you to a dead stop relative to the galaxy if you don't keep accelerating -- as though you were moving through a sea of thick fluid that was exerting friction on you.[[User:130.58.225.137|130.58.225.137]]

Revision as of 07:46, 28 January 2005

I don't think it's particularly necessary to mention the composer of the HyperSpace theme song and not the composers of the background music for TrueSpace, QuasiSpace, the Starbase and all the alien races. If we are going to mention it, we should mention that the *reason* is that HyperSpace is a more famous and more commonly used and remixed song than the others, or the reference doesn't make sense..

It used to be part of the article, but somebody moved it into brackets at the bottom for reasons unknown... -Fadookie 05:22, 23 Nov 2004 (CET)
I created a page about all the music (Star Control Music), and linked from here with a "See also". It might be nice to do that for all races, etc. -- SvdB 19:01, 23 Nov 2004 (CET)
Is even that necessary? It seems to me it'd be better to just do a front-page link for the music page and link to that once, rather than cluttering every page with links to the music when it should be clear from looking at the music page what things have music for them. Someone looking for info on the music would probably just go to music rather than, say, going to the page for Arilou La'leelay to find info on who wrote the Arilou La'leelay theme. In general I'm in favor of doing more to separate the aspects of Star Control 2 the game (details about the programmers, the music, the gameplay, etc.) and Star Control 2 the story. I've been trying to consistently put information from beyond the fourth wall in brackets.
I think that having such info on the race page could be helpful and informative. One of the main points of having a wiki is that all related pages are linked together for ease of navigation. Information on the alien race music is most definitely pertinent, as the page should eventually contain external links to download the music and its remixes, composer info, etc. This is too useful to be considered "clutter" in my opinion.-Fadookie 07:06, 24 Nov 2004 (CET)
I agree. We shouldn't limit ourselves to three walls. The wiki software has support for sections, which can be used to separate in-story information and "out-story" information. I'd like this wiki to be as complete as possible. -- SvdB 15:31, 24 Nov 2004 (CET)

Interesting ideas about the nature of light and the physics in hyperspace. I made s light change to keep the physics consistent. If the speed of light is different in hyperspace, we really should only expect the wavelengths to go longer and not the frequency to get higher. Otherwise how do you determine whether you red shift or blueshift. A good analogy would be changing the density of air to change the speed of sound. The pitch of a guitar string goes up because the wavelength changes but the frequency is the same. I would think the same would be true as we manipulate the 'quantum ether' that determines the speed of light. Also, if we could flesh out inter-hyperspace medium and the analogy to microwave and cosmic background radiation. The two are different phenomenon. Interstellar hydrogen radiates in a very specific band - 21 cm - deep in the microwave, while cosmic background radiation is blackbody radiation from the cooling of the universe since the big bang. If you want the medium to radiate across the spectrum, probably the best thing to do is to have it radiate thermally at some temperature. We could also do away with the medium entirely and have the brane of hyperspace be at a different temperature than TrueSpace, with a blackbody spectrum that peaks in the red spectrum (or the equivalent of the red spectrum for the different speed of light). Fyzixfighter 05:43, 28 Jan 2005 (CET)

Interesting. What I was trying to do was mess with the description to fit TFB's rather vague language about the "speed of light being different in HyperSpace" causing a "redshift" as well as maintaining an "invisible force" that slowls things down in HyperSpace. The reason for there being some sort of medium is less the red glow and more that there's something that yanks you to a dead stop relative to the galaxy if you don't keep accelerating -- as though you were moving through a sea of thick fluid that was exerting friction on you.130.58.225.137