https://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Alpha Pavonis - Revision history2024-03-28T12:58:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.7https://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&diff=23065&oldid=prevSvdb: reply2009-05-01T02:50:43Z<p>reply</p>
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</table>Svdbhttps://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&diff=23061&oldid=prevFyzixfighter: wait just a wee bit more2009-04-25T15:52:25Z<p>wait just a wee bit more</p>
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</table>Fyzixfighterhttps://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&diff=23060&oldid=prevShiver at 23:55, 23 April 20092009-04-23T23:55:11Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:One alternative that would try to address this need would be to create a '''Table/List of planets with biology''' or something similar (personally, I prefer this to tracking "Life" with the star pages). We could then include a number of bio units, and maybe even include the icons of the present life-forms. I think this would be more useful than indicating on the star pages which planets have life since it would be a truly comprehensive list. Another alternative, if people think that the star pages should track "Life" would be to use a standard icon rather than words so that it's easier on the eyes and distracts less from the more essential information. I have no idea what icon would be appropriate though. --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 01:26, 24 April 2009 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:One alternative that would try to address this need would be to create a '''Table/List of planets with biology''' or something similar (personally, I prefer this to tracking "Life" with the star pages). We could then include a number of bio units, and maybe even include the icons of the present life-forms. I think this would be more useful than indicating on the star pages which planets have life since it would be a truly comprehensive list. Another alternative, if people think that the star pages should track "Life" would be to use a standard icon rather than words so that it's easier on the eyes and distracts less from the more essential information. I have no idea what icon would be appropriate though. --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 01:26, 24 April 2009 (CEST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Shiverhttps://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&diff=23059&oldid=prevFyzixfighter: reply2009-04-23T23:26:53Z<p>reply</p>
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</table>Fyzixfighterhttps://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Alpha_Pavonis&diff=23058&oldid=prevShiver: Question about star pages.2009-04-23T21:18:51Z<p>Question about star pages.</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>"(contains Life)" was a recent edit to this page. The planet does. Is there a proper way to annotate this? Are star pages even supposed to keep track of this? --[[User:Shiver|Shiver]] 23:18, 23 April 2009 (CEST)</div>Shiver