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Where does "The Druuge intend to use the tough fungal fibers to create even stronger harnesses for their slaves." come from?
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Where does "The Druuge intend to use the tough fungal fibers to create even stronger harnesses for their slaves." come from? — [[User:Svdb|SvdB]] 17:25, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)
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:There's a comment in the [[Role Playing Resource Guide]] on pages 39 and 40.
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::The Druuge desire Deep Child Egg Case Fragments from which they extract incredibly tough, fungal fibers to build inescapable harnesses for their slaves.
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:--[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 23:04, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)
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I still think xenofrom is the perfect word -- for "alien life form", I think the word is xenomorph. [[User:68.35.154.196|68.35.154.196]] 23:05, 3 June 2006 (CEST)
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:First let me say that I agree that "terraform" isn't the best word in this situation. However, "xenoform" is explicitly used in the SC canon as a word/slang for alien lifeform, eg VUX (Very Ugly Xenoform). But I also agree that "xenomorph" works for alien lifeform, too. We see something similar in the description of the [[ VUX Beast]] as a "xenoteratomorph". I think that I also understand your initial intention of changing it from the word "terraform" since this is a somewhat human-centric term, and the deep children turn worlds into something that is nothing like earth, quite the opposite in fact. That's why I didn't blanket revert back to terraform. There is some usage of the word "terraform" as a broad synonym for planetary engineering in general no matter the outcome, but again I agree that using it here could be misleading. I don't like using "xenoform" as a verb in this sense ("Alien-shaping" a world) because I've never seen it used as such in an actual dictionary, in popular fiction, nor in the SC canon. Do you know of any instances where it is used in this way, either in a dictionary or in the popular scifi genre? --[[User:Fyzixfighter|Fyzixfighter]] 03:19, 4 June 2006 (CEST)
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:Oh, right, the VUX.  Is it used outside of that?  The dictionaries I have readily available don't even have terraform, and of course have neither xenoform nor xenomorph.  Wikipedia does have an article on "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenomorph_%28Alien%29 Xenomorph]s" referring specifically to the beasts in _Alien_, rather than general aliens.  Wikipedia also has "xeno-terraforming" on its [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming Terraforming] page.  I'm not quite sure where I picked up the word.  Looking on the web I do seen phrases such as "terraforming, or rather xenoforming" on a few places discussing aliens doing so, but it is admittedly, fairly rarely used. [[User:68.35.154.196|68.35.154.196]] 20:04, 4 June 2006 (CEST)
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:"Terraform" may carry a connotation of capital-E Earth-shaping, but if you look back at the [http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookit.pl?latin=terra Latin roots], the word could be taken to mean little-e earth-shaping, where earth is synonymous with "soil".  So, it could be any process that changes a planet.  I would argue that "terraforming" is appropriate for what the Deep Children do.  -- Ghengis, 1 July 2006

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Where does "The Druuge intend to use the tough fungal fibers to create even stronger harnesses for their slaves." come from? — SvdB 17:25, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)

There's a comment in the Role Playing Resource Guide on pages 39 and 40.
The Druuge desire Deep Child Egg Case Fragments from which they extract incredibly tough, fungal fibers to build inescapable harnesses for their slaves.
--Fyzixfighter 23:04, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)

I still think xenofrom is the perfect word -- for "alien life form", I think the word is xenomorph. 68.35.154.196 23:05, 3 June 2006 (CEST)

First let me say that I agree that "terraform" isn't the best word in this situation. However, "xenoform" is explicitly used in the SC canon as a word/slang for alien lifeform, eg VUX (Very Ugly Xenoform). But I also agree that "xenomorph" works for alien lifeform, too. We see something similar in the description of the VUX Beast as a "xenoteratomorph". I think that I also understand your initial intention of changing it from the word "terraform" since this is a somewhat human-centric term, and the deep children turn worlds into something that is nothing like earth, quite the opposite in fact. That's why I didn't blanket revert back to terraform. There is some usage of the word "terraform" as a broad synonym for planetary engineering in general no matter the outcome, but again I agree that using it here could be misleading. I don't like using "xenoform" as a verb in this sense ("Alien-shaping" a world) because I've never seen it used as such in an actual dictionary, in popular fiction, nor in the SC canon. Do you know of any instances where it is used in this way, either in a dictionary or in the popular scifi genre? --Fyzixfighter 03:19, 4 June 2006 (CEST)
Oh, right, the VUX. Is it used outside of that? The dictionaries I have readily available don't even have terraform, and of course have neither xenoform nor xenomorph. Wikipedia does have an article on "Xenomorphs" referring specifically to the beasts in _Alien_, rather than general aliens. Wikipedia also has "xeno-terraforming" on its Terraforming page. I'm not quite sure where I picked up the word. Looking on the web I do seen phrases such as "terraforming, or rather xenoforming" on a few places discussing aliens doing so, but it is admittedly, fairly rarely used. 68.35.154.196 20:04, 4 June 2006 (CEST)
"Terraform" may carry a connotation of capital-E Earth-shaping, but if you look back at the Latin roots, the word could be taken to mean little-e earth-shaping, where earth is synonymous with "soil". So, it could be any process that changes a planet. I would argue that "terraforming" is appropriate for what the Deep Children do. -- Ghengis, 1 July 2006