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:::No, didn't work I'm afraid.  Just occurred to me, do you think it might be a missing DLL?  (something that the game uses that ought to already be on my computer, rather than being in the installation package, and happens not to be?)  I've had problems vaguely like this with other downloaded indie programs before that turned out to be due to missing DLLs.  Good news is, I've worked out a few more of the menu items and succeeded in landing on Mercury!  I remembered that thing about the UQM files really being ZIP files with a different extension, and opened up the UQM content file to scout around for clues, and found a file called "gamestrings.txt" which includes the text of the menu items in what seems to be roughly the order in which they appear.  Rather fun, working it out like a puzzle.  I'm now stuck at the bit where you fight the Ilwrath, but I don't think that's the menus' fault, I think that's due to me not having got the hang of fighting yet. :-D  [[User:Wombat140|Wombat140]] ([[User talk:Wombat140|talk]]) 20:11, 2 February 2017 (CET)
 
:::No, didn't work I'm afraid.  Just occurred to me, do you think it might be a missing DLL?  (something that the game uses that ought to already be on my computer, rather than being in the installation package, and happens not to be?)  I've had problems vaguely like this with other downloaded indie programs before that turned out to be due to missing DLLs.  Good news is, I've worked out a few more of the menu items and succeeded in landing on Mercury!  I remembered that thing about the UQM files really being ZIP files with a different extension, and opened up the UQM content file to scout around for clues, and found a file called "gamestrings.txt" which includes the text of the menu items in what seems to be roughly the order in which they appear.  Rather fun, working it out like a puzzle.  I'm now stuck at the bit where you fight the Ilwrath, but I don't think that's the menus' fault, I think that's due to me not having got the hang of fighting yet. :-D  [[User:Wombat140|Wombat140]] ([[User talk:Wombat140|talk]]) 20:11, 2 February 2017 (CET)
 
::::G'day there. Is the forum registration issue one that you'd like to pursue? We could ask about that for you. A bug reporting thing still exists ([https://bugs.uqm.stack.nl/ here]), but that's as much I can contribute about this. That would be the correct place to report the menu text issue, and I see there was some activity there last year, so it's still active. Feel free to ask about the menus though. Cheers --[[User:Zeracles|Zeracles]] ([[User talk:Zeracles|talk]]) 03:00, 4 February 2017 (CET)
 
::::G'day there. Is the forum registration issue one that you'd like to pursue? We could ask about that for you. A bug reporting thing still exists ([https://bugs.uqm.stack.nl/ here]), but that's as much I can contribute about this. That would be the correct place to report the menu text issue, and I see there was some activity there last year, so it's still active. Feel free to ask about the menus though. Cheers --[[User:Zeracles|Zeracles]] ([[User talk:Zeracles|talk]]) 03:00, 4 February 2017 (CET)
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:::::That would be good if you could ask whether anything can be done about the forum problem, please.  And thanks for the link to the bug reporting thing.  (The links for that in the wiki and on the forum seem to be outdated and give a different address which doesn't work.)  I might post it in the future... but I haven't got a spare e-mail address and can't face sorting one out.  Pity they arranged it like that, I don't see why. [[User:Wombat140|Wombat140]] ([[User talk:Wombat140|talk]]) 15:25, 4 February 2017 (CET)

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Spoiler Warning

This warning isn't really the "first", "last", nor "only" spoiler warning. -- SvdB 13:24, 27 Oct 2004 (CEST)

Then call it The Spoiler Warning of Now and Forever. If you really think it's over the top, you can tone it down, but I think it gets the point accross well. Mmrnmhrm 17:30, 27 Oct 2004 (CEST)


What is the status of the data on this page? Can it all be copied over the main wikipedia due to being free license or is it different to normal wikipedia?

I would think the folks over at Wikipedia would probably truncate or reject some of our more indepth articles, the logic being that we're the indepth SC2 wiki, and they're the not-so-indepth everything wiki. Aside from that, I would ask the author of the article in question, first. -Luminar 00:53, 26 March 2006 (CET)
The top of this discussion page looked a bit untidy. I've added a heading to the above conversation, to push it below the contents. Big Mac 12:03, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Spam

As long as the spam is looking to delete the bottom-most section, it might as well be a one that's not so important.

It's not that important actually. There's already a link to the copyright page on the bottom of every page here.
SvdB 11:12, 28 January 2006 (CET)
I daresay the spam has developed to a more malicious and overwhelming level rather than just petty and annoying. How long has this crap been going on for, and is there any way we can actually prevent or protect against spam before it actually happens, because otherwise all of the work on this wiki is going to be counter-vandalism. I feel kind of bad myself for choking up the change log with pseudo-reversions rather than actual article work. -Luminar 16:58, 9 March 2006 (CET)
Perhaps we can implement a bot-defense system such as a captcha (prompting users to type in a random word that appears in an image) on either a per-registration, per-login, or per-post basis. Per-post would be the most effective, but it might be a hindrance to actual contributors.
I think the newer versions of mediawiki come with a captcha option... it's certainly worth a try. -Fadookie 07:56, 10 March 2006 (CET)
I just noticed that on wikiquote, they automatically detect when you are adding external links to a page and generate a captcha. (Captchas are not generated for normal editing.) If there's any way for us to enable this feature, I think we ought to ASAP. It should help tremendously with hindering spammers, while not getting in the way of day-to-day wiki operations for our editors. -Fadookie 17:25, 14 April 2006 (CEST)
I just realized someone had already enabled this feature when I was adding an external link to the music section. That's good then, hopefully it will deter the link spammers. -Fadookie 19:24, 14 April 2006 (CEST)
Yeah, on the 11 March. It doesn't so much deter spam as make automated spam impractical. And it's quite noticable. We now only have the occasional manual spammer. — SvdB 12:37, 15 April 2006 (CEST)
Getting spammed rather badly again now, in the form of huge numbers of presumably fake users being added. I don't know whether this causes a problem (beyond messing up "Recent changes" since each new user appears as a change); if so, presumably putting a Captcha on registration would fix it. Wombat140 (talk) 15:27, 30 January 2017 (CET)

Suggestions

I suggest putting links to the other SC2-related websites on the mainpage, e.g. Forum http://uqm.stack.nl/forum, sf.net, bug-report-page, etc. -HaJo 22 February 2006 (CET)

Well, there is already a wikilink to the Links page down in the lower left. --Fyzixfighter 01:47, 23 February 2006 (CET)


Perhaps this page should be protected since it sees a lot of vandalism? --Luminar 21:53, 24 February 2006 (CET)

That wouldn't help. They'd just pick another page. This way at least it's easy to see, and it's better that this page is spammed than some article page.
SvdB 05:43, 25 February 2006 (CET)

Assertion 1: Ur-quan masters equivalent of Star Control II. Assertion 2: Star Control I and Star Control III are in existence. Assertion 3: Full knowledge of Star Control requires full knowledge of series. Assertion 4: Database identified as Ultronomicon deals exclusively with Ur-quan Masters. Conclusion A: Star Control databases must include information on Star Control I and Star Control III. Conclusion B: Database identified as Ultronomicon is incomplete. Query: Units identified as Humans from Earth are directed to either affirm or negate this argument. Daktaklakpak 00:35, 10 February 2007 (CET)

The Ultronomicon is not for SC3 stuff. See your talk page. — SvdB 18:05, 10 February 2007 (CET)

Statment: Information reveiwed. Query: Reasons as to ordering. Assertion 1: Wikis allow fanfic articles. Assertion 1 sub a: See Black Spathi Squadron. Assertion 2: SC3 equivalent of fanfic and/or cannon. Conclusion: Exclusion of SC3 equivalent of prejeduce. -An attempt to be logical by Daktaklakpak 22:00, 14 February 2007 (CET)

The BSS page is not fanfic. The page does briefly include a reference/meta-information to the use of the BSS in fanfic. In reality, we've tried specifically to keep fanfic out. As SvdB has already pointed out to you numerous times, the Ultronomicon is dedicated to the description of the Star Control universe as intended by TFB (see Canon). The BSS is in that universe, hence the page. SC3 was not created by TFB, therefore none of the mythology, history, or other information of the SC universe it presents will be included in the Ultronomicon. period. This is not prejudice, as those of us of this opinion have likely played SC3, measured it and found it lackluster in comparison to TFB's SC1 and SC2. If you want to add information from SC1 or SC2, please do. Otherwise, please refrain from continuing to flog a decaying equine. --Fyzixfighter 22:38, 14 February 2007 (CET)

Daktaklakpak: You'll find that the administrators of the Ultronomicon are on one line regarding this policy. If you want to contribute, there's still plenty to be done. But what you're doing now is just a waste of time. — SvdB 00:04, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Query: Ownership of Trademark equivalent of Accolade. -Another attempt at logic by Daktaklakpak 01:20, 16 February 2007 (CET)


Hi there. Sorry, this is probably not the best place, but I don't know where else to put my comment. I'd like to see more screenshots of the actual game. I've never played or seen The Ur-Quan Masters or Star Control, and so to fully understand and learn about them I need to SEE something....... I came here from the Wikipedia article about Star Control. Yours interestedly, Gregor --89.196.12.185 12:51, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Nice work

I haven't really been paying attention to the developments on the Ultronomicon, but I must say it keeps getting better. I'm glad to see that people are still spending time on it.

As I see it, the weak points at the moment are the overview pages. In particular the Main Page and some of the pages it links to are pretty bad (mainly the layout). As those are the pages which a first-time visitor will see first, improving them could significally help the general impression people get when they visit the Ultronomicon. — SvdB 21:42, 23 March 2008 (CET)


Elvish Pillager's Crazy Mod has its own section devoted to it so I guess you could make a wiki page for that. If you want webspace to host that quiz, The Pages of Now and Forever would be a better place to look. --Shiver 05:27, 14 October 2008 (CEST)

EP-Mod only has a page devoted to it because it is a major modification. This quiz is just a minor project. This site is primarily for information on Star Control (both the universe and the games). Valaggar 13:51, 14 October 2008 (CEST)
I have to agree with Val on this one. IMO it doesn't merit a page, but we could add a link for it at Links#Fan pages. Another good metric (though not a perfect one) for fan-made stuff is how widespread/popular/talked-about it is in the fan community. Just my two cents though. --Fyzixfighter 00:00, 18 October 2008 (CEST)

I suggest you move 'Main Page' to 'Ultramonicon'

If you move your 'Main Page' to 'Ultranomicon' then it will improve your search engine optimisation and make the way your main page shows up on Google (and other search engines) look a lot better.

You will need to do a bit of behind the scenes work, to get the navigation menu to update, but I think it will be worth the effort. Big Mac 12:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

We're already the top entry on Google for "Ultronomicon". In what way would our main page look a lot better on Google? — SvdB 06:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I think I see the "problem". Unfortunately, probably not correctable. A search for "ultranomicon" returns this site as the 10th or so listing. Which would probably be about correct, since this site is an Ultronomicon and not an Ultranomicon. If you moved 'Main Page' to the misspelled variant, it could marginally affect Google's ranking, but probably quite little. What might work though, would be if other sites that link to here, left their links titled with the misspelled variation instead of the correct one. Not a good tradeoff, though.--Slylandro Spambot (talk) 22:07, 13 August 2012 (CEST)

Is this wiki still alive?

Please, comment on this and make me think I'm not the only one frequenting this wiki :)

It's not finished. Did you try Recent Changes? If you're looking for the broader SC-community, I heartily recommend it; try UQMF, PNF or Frungy Lovers. If you're interested in fan projects, there are a few of those floating around. --Zeracles 08:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the wiki is still alive. I haven't seen any major page overhauls in a long time, but we're still here. --Shiver 09:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

``Hello"

This is just a friendly heads up that edits on this page merely comprising variants of ``hello" will be regarded as spam and reverted, though we welcome contributions here or anywhere else on the wiki of course. If you just want to hang out with your star control friends, the best places are here, here and here. Looking forward to seeing you on the forums! --Zeracles 10:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Question

Is there a chance that the game could become an App? Maybe this could make it popular again. --93.220.42.3 10:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

People have talked about is before. See the UQM forum. — SvdB 17:10, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Need help with bug problem

I know this is a question for the forums, but I'm asking here because I can't get into the forum; I've registered but the activation e-mail arrives blank wih no link in it. (I've tried requesting another activation e-mail, same result.) Am I right in thinking that the Bugzilla bug reporting thing no longer exists, by the way?

The problem is simple, I started playing the game but none of the in-game menus have text in them, they're all blank - just 5 blank items, or 4, or 6, as the case may be. Things happen when I select them, it's evidently just the text that's affected. I've been trying to work out what everything does by trial and error, but there are limits to how much you can do that way! (I got as far as orbiting Mercury and scanning it, but can't find a way to land.) Do you know how to fix this? If not, could you maybe post it on the forum for me, please? Would like to be able to find a way past this - loved the game as far as I got!

Howdy Camper. this is beyond my range of experise. i'd solve it by deleting the game entirely and then downloading it again. Donutcity (talk) 22:23, 30 January 2017 (CET)
Thanks Donutcity, I might just end up doing that. Everything else works fine, that's the funny thing, but you could be right, our Internet's a bit wobbly and I've had things download with slight blips in them before. By the way I'm running it on Windows XP if that's any help, I forgot to say (not this computer, a different computer which doesn't have Internet and therefore can run whatever I like). And I installed it by the no-Internet method, as per http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters_Technical_FAQ#How_do_I_install_the_game_on_Windows_without_an_internet_connection.3F Wombat140 (talk) 23:37, 30 January 2017 (CET)
No, didn't work I'm afraid. Just occurred to me, do you think it might be a missing DLL? (something that the game uses that ought to already be on my computer, rather than being in the installation package, and happens not to be?) I've had problems vaguely like this with other downloaded indie programs before that turned out to be due to missing DLLs. Good news is, I've worked out a few more of the menu items and succeeded in landing on Mercury! I remembered that thing about the UQM files really being ZIP files with a different extension, and opened up the UQM content file to scout around for clues, and found a file called "gamestrings.txt" which includes the text of the menu items in what seems to be roughly the order in which they appear. Rather fun, working it out like a puzzle. I'm now stuck at the bit where you fight the Ilwrath, but I don't think that's the menus' fault, I think that's due to me not having got the hang of fighting yet. :-D Wombat140 (talk) 20:11, 2 February 2017 (CET)
G'day there. Is the forum registration issue one that you'd like to pursue? We could ask about that for you. A bug reporting thing still exists (here), but that's as much I can contribute about this. That would be the correct place to report the menu text issue, and I see there was some activity there last year, so it's still active. Feel free to ask about the menus though. Cheers --Zeracles (talk) 03:00, 4 February 2017 (CET)
That would be good if you could ask whether anything can be done about the forum problem, please. And thanks for the link to the bug reporting thing. (The links for that in the wiki and on the forum seem to be outdated and give a different address which doesn't work.) I might post it in the future... but I haven't got a spare e-mail address and can't face sorting one out. Pity they arranged it like that, I don't see why. Wombat140 (talk) 15:25, 4 February 2017 (CET)