Talk:QuasiSpace

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"...QuasiSpace was an illusion, generated either by the minds of the Vindicator's crew or somehow created by the Arilou, and that the real structure of QuasiSpace obeys no physical laws and is some sort of purely "mental", "spiritual" or "pattern-based" dimension."

The other contributions you've made to this article are excellent, but this particular assertion seems pretty unbased to me. I can see how one might comment on the subjective nature of physical perception (and how these factors limit our comprehension of QuasiSpace) but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support the hypothesis that QuasiSpace is a purely "mental" dimension. -Fadookie 10:10, 22 Nov 2004 (CET)

I agree that this is pure fan-fiction. He again seems to be taking his own theories as fact. That's fine if you want to start a religion, but not if you're working on an encyclopedia. -- SvdB 15:35, 22 Nov 2004 (CET)
From observing SvdB's snark, I can see why this wiki's articles have a hostile attitude towards religion/spirituality ... And it goes beyond the negative light SCII sometimes sheds on them. I know this observation is not unique. The kinds of snippy remarks like SvdB's are unwarranted and uncalled for, and they're going to wind up alienating fans who might have something useful to contribute. Please keep your prejudices in check, okay? -- 75.23.211.65 21:23, 16 March 2007 (CET)
Oh my, I can't tell if this is serious or not. If it is, dude, you are blowing this way out of proportion. It's a fool who takes offense where no offense is intended. The example you cited on the Human page is an exception and not the rule. Notice that not one of the regular editors joined in, and that the current Human article no longer has those questionable comments. Show we one current page that is openly hostile towards religion/spirituality. As a religious person myself, I have never felt slighted by SvdB or any of the other regular editors in terms of my religious beliefs. So my only advice is to stop being a victim and get over the snippy and snarky (perceived or real) remarks. Life's a lot more enjoyable and productive that way. --Fyzixfighter 00:02, 17 March 2007 (CET)
How typical. Everyone says to respect other people's religious expressions, but as soon as someone expresses atheism, some religious zealot is feeling persecuted. How about a bit of tolerance? — SvdB 18:00, 17 March 2007 (CET)

Hey Fadookie, just to let you know why I reinserted some of the stuff you just took out. I agree that a good deal of it was fanfic, so I fixed the sentence before that text to be less speculation and reinserted a reworded form of the "objects travelling between dimensions" text. It still sounds a bit akward - probably needs to be reworked a bit. This is one of the few "canon" theories and not fanfic since it's found in the manual. A similar comment about the energy bursts should also probably be added over on the HyperSpace page. Fyzixfighter 06:31, 30 Sep 2005 (CEST)

Okay, I have no problem with canon. However, the way that it was (and is) worded makes it sound more like speculation than anything. -Fadookie

Yeah, like I said the wording is still kinda' odd. I'm not sure how to make this sound more canon though because the original wording is "...it is theorized that these are manifestations of objects which are moving quickly through HyperSpace into adjacent dimensions." It is still speculation, just canon speculation instead of the fanfic speculation - hence this dilemma. Any ideas on better wording for this? Fyzixfighter 07:09, 30 Sep 2005 (CEST)

When I wikified the table, I also made a few changes to the presentation of the data. I added in the leading zeroes on a few of the coordinates and used a colon to separate the coordinates (like in the game). I also changed the ordering a bit, placing them by increasing x coordinate with the exception of the "natural" QS portal. The other way (by increasing y) makes sense but isn't as easy to read - it took me a few seconds to see what the ordering scheme was. Fyzixfighter 20:42, 22 Oct 2005 (CEST)

The fact that the QuasiSpace screen is a perfect negative of the HyperSpace screen is *not* "speculation" or "fanfiction" -- it's demonstrably true, and seems much more likely to be intentional on the part of the creators rather than simply being too lazy to create a different screen. I'm putting it back in, since it *is* a major component in the "speculation" about the nature of QuasiSpace, which is *as or more important* to the game as the (much less well-founded) "speculation" about the Orz that people constantly indulge in.

A lot of the complementary color information was still there - I agree that it is direct observation, though whether it is the exact complement is debatable (red:cyan and green:magenta are the true complement pairs). Heck, I even fought to keep the inter-dimensional nature of the explosions in the article. I did add a more explicit sentence following those to make special note of this interesting correlation. As for the other comment, imho that starts delving a little too much into original research/personal opinions. As such, I shortened it a bit, moved the literal meaning of QuasiSpace to the top, and moved the speculation comment to the end of the article. I'd like to be more specific about which comments by the Arilou are part of this interpretation. Can you provide the specific statements in which the Arilou mention the "Humans' inability to fully perceive the nature of their home dimension," please? --Fyzixfighter 10:58, 2 Nov 2005 (CET)

Added Fuel cost of journey to earth, however this makes the table appear clumsy, please feel free to edit so table is more elegant.