User talk:Svdb

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is there an Editors' Page to discuss changes publicly? if not, can we make one? -SamYeager 10:05, 28 Sep 2004 (CEST)

Go right ahead. I suggest you name it as it is named in the Wikipedia. It might be a good idea to link it from the main page too. Or perhaps from "Community portal". -- SvdB

should we make links to go upwards through menus of items (ie. make a link to "List of Races" from the "Humans" page)? it would make editing many pages easier since we no longer have to backtrack through several pages of blanked-out previews to get to the category we were at. -SamYeager 10:05, 28 Sep 2004 (CEST)

I think the "Categories" concept suffices for this. Put for instance [[Category:Races]] on the bottom of a page to place it in a category. See Special:Categories for all categories so far.
Also, you can select "What links here" in the toolbox on the left.

for the WantedPages, do we view pages that have just 1 link to them? it'd be a good way to find misspelled or misdirected links.

I didn't write the wiki software. It's not a high priority for me to find out where in the code this is handled, and change it.
Minor fix. See 1 Link Pages from Main Page -SamYeager 10:05, 28 Sep 2004 (CEST)
I guess it will do as a temporary solution. --SvdB
I have changed the source to show 1 link pages, and removed your page.


Is there a more effective way to protect the wiki from spammers and vandals other than just ip-banning them and reverting their changes? -Fadookie 11:00, 23 Oct 2004 (CEST)

That's how it is still done on the Wikipedia. Another possibility is to require contributors to make an account, with email verification. You could protect against spam bots by asking them to copy a number from an image when they contribute (but MediaWiki can't do that yet).
Something else we could do is lock specific pages (like the main page), but I don't want to do that until that page has reached a more permanent form. Against non-bots you could put up some idle threat on the home page like "the last person who vandalised a page on this site got his computer hacked and cleared." :) -- SvdB 11:14, 23 Oct 2004 (CEST)

Corridor Nine

I'd like to merge Corridor 9 and Corridor Nine. I'd like the new article to reside at Corridor Nine (which I think is the better title), but I'd like to keep Corridor 9's editing history (because is the better article of the two). So, what do I do? I can't move Corridor 9 because Corridor Nine isn't empty and I don't want to simply copy & paste the content from Corridor 9 either, because then I'd be taking false credit in that article's editing history. Sorry, if this is inappropriate here, but you were the only Admin with a non-empty Talk page, so I thought I'd ask you. -- Anym 00:11, 5 Apr 2005 (CEST)

Just make Corridor 9 the new page, and when you're done, let me know, and I'll rename it. Just make sure to put in the summary what you have done. - SvdB 00:31, 5 Apr 2005 (CEST)
Been there, done that! There wasn't much information on Corridor Nine to begin with (and most of that was already on Corridor 9 as well), so it was pretty painless. All I did was add a mention of Vela. I forget to write a summary all too often, but this time I tried to make it pretty verbose. -- Anym 01:48, 5 Apr 2005 (CEST)
Move completed

Just testing... I guess we need a sandbox... -- SvdB 20:47, 10 Aug 2005 (CEST)

Search tool

I hope this isn't just me, but every time I try to use the search utility over there on the left side, I get an error message: "You have requested a special page that is not recognized by the wiki." Was the search tool disabled because of vandalism? -Fyzixfighter 20:19, 20 Sep 2005 (CEST)

About a month ago, I changed some stuff in the site config so that '' works as ''. Apparently that broke the search. It's fixed now.
Myself, I have an entry for the Ultronomicon in Opera's search.ini, so I do 'ultron bla' to search for bla, bypassing the search box altogether.
— SvdB 01:29, 21 Sep 2005 (CEST)

The Captain?

Hey Svdb, what's the Ultronomicon style for referring to the Captain? I've seen The Captain and Captain Zelnick used interchangeably in the text, though the latter is, of course, a redirect to The Captain. If it's the style to use "The Captain" throughout this wiki, I'd like to perhaps create a style guide, (at Ultronomicon:Style guide Ultronomicon:Manual of Style) and mention such style decisions there. As a side note, I've been inactive for a while, but I hope to contribute more to this great project of yours. :-) --Phoenix (t) 23:43, 30 Sep 2005 (CEST)

Most contributors seem to agree that 'The Captain' is the way to go, as the player can change the name, and in the PC version, you would be asked. One contributor disagrees, but I think he has conceded. Old pages probably still contain references to Zelnick. The story with 'The Flagship' vs 'The Vindicator' is analogous. There's also 'SIS' the name used in the code, but it has no place here.

There's a similar difference of opinion on how to describe game events. Some people like these things as things that can or will happen if/unless the player takes certain actions ("If The Captain allies with the Spathi, they will erect a slave shield at their home world"), while others prefer describing things as if they already happened, assuming the most complete, happy ending ("after The Captain allied with the Spathi they erected a slave shield at their home world"). I think the former is better myself, as it is more exact.

I agree that a style guide is a good idea, but what we could perhaps use more, to come to such a guide, is a discussion area where we could discuss things like this, like the "Village Pump" at Wikipedia. I had been planning to introduce something like that, but I've been planning a lot of things. Feel free to create it yourself if you like. — SvdB 00:52, 4 Oct 2005 (CEST)

Yeah, I also posted this question in Ultronomicon talk:Community Portal, though I don't know if that area is very active anymore. I'll probably create the page and put up that it's a work in progress, similar to the "Proposed process" dialogue box in Wikipedia. As for how to describe game events, I think I've been doing the latter, but I agree, the former is probably better. It also makes me wonder how to edit, for example, the Member of field in {{RaceBox}}. For instance, with the Spathi, there would be a couple of options:
  1. Hierarchy of Battle Thralls
  2. Hierarchy of Battle Thralls,
    New Alliance of Free Stars
  3. Hierarchy of Battle Thralls,
    New Alliance of Free Stars (can join)
Given your opinion about game events, we should probably go with the third option. --Phoenix (t) 14:46, 4 Oct 2005 (CEST)
Here's another idea. In certain places where the actions and fate of the characters are largely dependent on player actions (such as Tanaka), how about placing a tag similar to the {{spoiler}}, but read something like "the following events are largely dependant on player actions, and may not occur" (or something similar). This kind of a tag would probably require a beginning and end tag. --Phoenix (t) 15:05, 4 Oct 2005 (CEST)
I agree that something like "(can join)" would be best, but I don't like the exact phrase. It's a bit unclear imho. I'd personally prefer "(optional)", or "(at the player's choice)".
As for the tags, I think that if the relevant text is phrased appropriately, such tags would be unnecessary.
SvdB 20:46, 8 Oct 2005 (CEST)
I'll put "(optional)", for now. --Phoenix (t) 19:47, 10 Oct 2005 (CEST)

wiki weirdness

This is weird; when I use ~~~~, my name doesn't link to my user page anymore. Anyone have any idea? — SvdB 21:13, 8 Oct 2005 (CEST)

Under Preferences < User data, do you have Raw signatures (without automatic link) checked, and what is the setting in Your nickname (for signatures)? --Phoenix (t) 00:23, 9 Oct 2005 (CEST)
Ah, thanks. It was indeed the "Raw signatures" setting. I don't recall ever changing that, but apparently, I must have. — SvdB 04:15, 9 Oct 2005 (CEST)


How do I make templates like PlanetBox to list the amount of resources? I have been exploring the map and have a table of data for the various planets that is better than the spreadsheet that Now and Forever offers in their file page. We already have a list of constellations, so adding a box for the recources on the different planets would be a help, I think.