Talk:The Flagship

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Since I just posted about this elsewhere[edit]

SIS should definitely not be the primary name. It's never actually used in the game's *text*, which is the actual canon source -- what it's called in the source code, which is not part of the *finished game itself* (not part of the experience of playing the game), is irrelevant, even if it's a convenient term for fans to throw around.

It should either be referred to as "Vindicator" or "Flagship" (of the New Alliance of Free Stars), with the latter being the preferable choice.

Concerning spoilers and the Flagship[edit]

Friend Fyzixfighter,

I have added a -spoiler warning- in this part of the wiki. I acted in good faith as you already understood. I read the main page about the spoilers section after you have repaired my addition(spoiler warning).

This is not my wiki to control and I respect that. Allow me to express my disagreement though.

Concerning the part about the destruction of the flagship, what exactly does it serve?

You, or someone, might say "hey this is a plot element of the flagship", yes I agree with that. Why don't you add a plot section(like in wikipedia)? You can put all the spoilers in a plot section.

I went in the flagship part because I had a question concerning the sideway guns and instead I found that the ship is going to be destroyed. Whenever I go to (for example)wikipedia to check if a movie is good, I skip the plot and I check the criticism and the general receive of the press. Here, in this article, how could I ever skip it?

What is the purpose of giving information for a weapon system (in the game) to someone who doesn't know the game, when in the same time you throw him spoilers?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the "spoiler policy" of this wiki, does this wiki understand how to manage it's "spoiler policy" though?

Thank you.

I've replied on my talk page. --Fyzixfighter 18:47, 22 December 2008 (CET)

This article looks a little sparse. Couldn't we merge the flagship module pages into here? --Shiver 00:37, 24 December 2008 (CET)

I've added the List of modules in the See also part for now (as it's particularly relevant for the subject). I don't really see a need to merge this page with the flagship module pages — all that would do is make this page ugly. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Valaggar 17:40, 24 December 2008 (CET)
Yeah it is kind of sparse. I'd recommend mimicking the other ship pages with a "Navigation" (discussion about the effects of turning jets and thrusters), "Armament" (damage and energy cost of the various weapons, salvo slot-dependence, PDL, ATS), and a "History" section. This would flesh out the article a bit better, make the article much more useful, and organize the information so that it's easily navigable and satisfies User:Polemos' concerns without the need for a spoiler warning.
However, I do agree with Val that we don't need to merge in the various module pages. I do think (and I didn't always think this) a much more reasonable thing to do would be to merge the flagship module pages into the List of Flagship Modules. If the pages themselves can serve a unique, stand-alone purpose that the list can't, then they would warrant individual pages. However, I don't see what that purpose could be (and I can't seem to recall my initial aversion to such a merge). --Fyzixfighter 22:42, 29 December 2008 (CET)
Voicing my support for Fyzixfighter's idea. --Shiver 07:21, 31 December 2008 (CET)

First stab at rewriting[edit]

Ok, I tried to do a quick stab at rewriting the article. I didn't finish it because frankly, I'm getting tired and need to step away from it for awhile. I got as far as starting the 3rd paragraph in the history section before I had to stop - I tried to keep the important points in the history without getting overly detailed in tangents. I also didn't try to touch the armament section, though I do have some ideas of what I'd like to see in it. So feel free to add in what I missed or edit what's been done already. Maybe tomorrow I'll try again. Have fun. --Fyzixfighter 06:13, 2 January 2009 (CET)