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==Major mysteries==
 
==Major mysteries==
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Mysteries that have (had) a drastic effect on the [[Star Control Universe]]. These could be a major story-line in a possible sequel.
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Mysteries referenced by more than two [[canon]] sources.
  
 
===What happened to the [[Precursors]]?===
 
===What happened to the [[Precursors]]?===
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:<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the [[Orz]] assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the [[Precursors]].
 
:<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the [[Orz]] assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the [[Precursors]].
  
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===What is the purpose of the [[Rainbow World]]s?===
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=====What is the purpose of the [[Rainbow World]]s?=====
 
From the [[Slylandro]]:
 
From the [[Slylandro]]:
 
:We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.
 
:We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.
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===Who are [[They|They/Them]]?===
 
===Who are [[They|They/Them]]?===
  
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===What happened to the [[Androsynth]]? Are any still alive?===
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=====What happened to the [[Androsynth]]? Are any still alive?=====
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
<LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2?
 
<LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2?
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==Minor mysteries==
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==Lore mysteries==
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Mysteries with a possible impact on a future plot.
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Minor mysteries (mysteries referenced by only one or two [[canon]] sources) with an eventual impact on the plot, and their satellite mysteries.
  
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===What are the [[Arilou]]'s motives for messing with [[Humans]]?===
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===[[Arilou]]===
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=====What are the [[Arilou]]'s motives for messing with [[humans]]?=====
  
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===What is the connection between the humans and the Syreen?===
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=====What is the connection between the humans and the Syreen?=====
 
They seem to be physically compatible, at least to a certain extent.
 
They seem to be physically compatible, at least to a certain extent.
  
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===Did the [[Arilou]] interfere in the development of other races besides the [[Humans]]?===
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=====Did the [[Arilou]] interfere in the development of other races besides the [[Humans]]?=====
 
Commander [[Hayes]] mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the [[Thraddash]]).
 
Commander [[Hayes]] mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the [[Thraddash]]).
  
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===Do the Orz have a special purpose for the [[Humans]], as the [[Arilou]] have?===
 
  
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===What is the history of the [[Arilou]] with the [[Orz]]?===
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=====Who or what are the [[*Nnngn*]] that the [[Arilou]] are chasing?=====
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===[[Orz]]===
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=====Do the Orz have a special purpose for the [[Humans]], as the [[Arilou]] have?=====
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=====Where did the [[Orz]] come from?=====
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=====What is the history of the [[Arilou]] with the [[Orz]]?=====
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
:<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
 
:<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
 
:<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.
 
:<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.
  
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===Are there still [[Taalo]] alive?===
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=====Are there still [[Taalo]] alive?=====
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
:<_Stilgar> <che`z`puf> Are the Taalo really dead, and when the [[Pkunk]] spoke of rocks that were awakened, did they mean the Taaolo?
 
:<_Stilgar> <che`z`puf> Are the Taalo really dead, and when the [[Pkunk]] spoke of rocks that were awakened, did they mean the Taaolo?
 
:<Fwiffo> The Taalo LIVE!
 
:<Fwiffo> The Taalo LIVE!
  
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===What happened to the [[Talking Pet|neo-Dnyarri]]?===
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===Post-SC2===
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Did he survive as it is said in the out-takes?
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=====How did [[The Captain]] find the Mark II?=====
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How did he use it?
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===Pre-SC2===
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=====Who created the [[Mother Ark]] that built the [[Mmrnmhrm]] and with what purpose?=====
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=====How did the Pkunk and the [[Yehat]] get separated?=====
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===Additional===
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=====Who are the [[Keel-Verezy]]?=====
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=====Does the [[Black Spathi Squadron]] really exist?=====
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=====Why did the [[Melnorme]]'s bridge turn purple?=====
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The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the [[3DO]] version and [[UQM]]), but it is impossible to gather this many credits, and their conversation tree doesn't include a response for this.
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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:"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."
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=====Does the [[Spathi]]'s [[Ultimate Evil]] really exist?=====
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
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:<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on [[Spathiwa]]?
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:<Xxyl> I believe those were those "[[Evil Ones]]"
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:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
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:<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.
  
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===Is the [[Ultron]] still in working order?===
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The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. [[Fwiffo]]'s description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.
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Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?
 
  
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===How did [[The Captain]] find the Mark II?===
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==Other mysteries==
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Minor mysteries resulting from extrapolation or critical analysis of the [[canon]] lore.
  
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===Does the [[Black Spathi Squadron]] really exist?===
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===Post-SC2===
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Mysteries related to elements of an eventual Star Control II sequel.
  
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===How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the [[Ur-Quan]]?===
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=====How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the [[Ur-Quan]]?=====
 
*The [[Battle Thralls]]
 
*The [[Battle Thralls]]
 
*The [[Fallow Slave]]s
 
*The [[Fallow Slave]]s
 
*Other races
 
*Other races
  
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===Are there [[Spathi]] still out there not under the [[Spathiwa]] [[slave shield]]?===
 
  
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===Are there any [[Ilwrath]] and/or Thraddash left after [[Ilwrath-Thraddash war|their war]]?===
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=====Are there [[Spathi]] still out there not under the [[Spathiwa]] [[slave shield]]?=====
  
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===Where are the new [[Shofixti]] settling?===
 
  
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=====Are there any [[Ilwrath]] and/or Thraddash left after [[Ilwrath-Thraddash war|their war]]?=====
  
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==Trivia==
 
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Things that may leave you wondering when you first find out about them, but which are not likely to be important in the big picture.
 
  
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===What does the face of an [[Utwig]] look like?===
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=====Where are the new [[Shofixti]] settling?=====
  
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===Is the [[VUX Beast]] the only one left of its species?===
 
  
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===Where did the [[Orz]] come from?===
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=====What happened to the [[Talking Pet|neo-Dnyarri]]?=====
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Did he survive as it is said in the out-takes?
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 +
 
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=====Is the [[Ultron]] still in working order?=====
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Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?
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=====How will the Ultron change the [[Druuge]]?=====
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How did it change the Supox?
  
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===What happened to the [[Tobermoon]] and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?===
 
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The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?
 
  
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===Why did a [[Slylandro]] [[Probe]] only disable the Tobermoon?===
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===Trivial===
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Mysteries related to details with little or no importance.
  
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===Who or what are the [[*Nnngn*]] that the [[Arilou]] are chasing?===
 
  
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===Who created the [[Mother Ark]] that built the [[Mmrnmhrm]] and with what purpose?===
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=====What does the face of an [[Utwig]] look like?=====
  
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===How did the Pkunk and the [[Yehat]] get separated?===
 
  
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===Who are the [[Keel-Verezy]]?===
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=====Is the [[VUX Beast]] the only one left of its species?=====
  
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===Why did the [[Melnorme]]'s bridge turn purple?===
 
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The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the [[3DO]] version and [[UQM]]), but it is impossible to gather this many credits, and their conversation tree doesn't include a response for this.
 
  
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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===Additional===
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:"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."
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Mysteries resulting from the critical analysis of elements in the plot not presented as mysteries.
  
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===Does the [[Spathi]]'s [[Ultimate Evil]] really exist?===
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=====What happened to the [[Tobermoon]] and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?=====
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?
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:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
 
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:<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on [[Spathiwa]]?
 
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:<Xxyl> I believe those were those "[[Evil Ones]]"
 
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:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
 
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:<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.
 
  
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The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. [[Fwiffo]]'s description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.
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=====Why did a [[Slylandro]] [[Probe]] only disable the Tobermoon?=====
  
  
 
[[Category:About the Star Control series]]
 
[[Category:About the Star Control series]]
 
[[Category:Trivia]]
 
[[Category:Trivia]]

Revision as of 12:45, 4 June 2007

This is a list of mysteries that are still open at the end of Star Control II.

Major mysteries

Mysteries referenced by more than two canon sources.

What happened to the Precursors?

From the Slylandro:

Joyous Lifting, who has a better memory than I recalls that the Shaggy Ones were described as being... worried.
They were always hurrying from place to place, seeking knowledge as though they were in a desperate search for some important secret some answer to a question that they never shared with us.
Sullen Plummet remembers that the last time the Shaggy Ones visited our world they came aboard a great circular starship, one even larger than your own.
They had discovered their Answer and were leaving to go somewhere and they didn't tell us exactly where 'somewhere' was.

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the Orz assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the Precursors.
What is the purpose of the Rainbow Worlds?

From the Slylandro:

We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.


Who are They/Them?

What happened to the Androsynth? Are any still alive?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here): <LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2? <Fwiffo> In regards to the Androsynth: They were snagged by the entity who/which projected its fingers into our dimension (which looked to us as the Orz.)

From a fan email with Fred Ford:

> Were ALL the Androsynth destroyed when the Orz came?
Perceptive lad. This was a leading plot candidate for our theoretical sequel.


Lore mysteries

Minor mysteries (mysteries referenced by only one or two canon sources) with an eventual impact on the plot, and their satellite mysteries.

Arilou

What are the Arilou's motives for messing with humans?
What is the connection between the humans and the Syreen?

They seem to be physically compatible, at least to a certain extent.


Did the Arilou interfere in the development of other races besides the Humans?

Commander Hayes mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the Thraddash).


Who or what are the *Nnngn* that the Arilou are chasing?

Orz

Do the Orz have a special purpose for the Humans, as the Arilou have?
Where did the Orz come from?
What is the history of the Arilou with the Orz?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.


Are there still Taalo alive?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<_Stilgar> <che`z`puf> Are the Taalo really dead, and when the Pkunk spoke of rocks that were awakened, did they mean the Taaolo?
<Fwiffo> The Taalo LIVE!

Post-SC2

How did The Captain find the Mark II?

How did he use it?


Pre-SC2

Who created the Mother Ark that built the Mmrnmhrm and with what purpose?
How did the Pkunk and the Yehat get separated?

Additional

Who are the Keel-Verezy?
Does the Black Spathi Squadron really exist?
Why did the Melnorme's bridge turn purple?

The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the 3DO version and UQM), but it is impossible to gather this many credits, and their conversation tree doesn't include a response for this.

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."


Does the Spathi's Ultimate Evil really exist?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on Spathiwa?
<Xxyl> I believe those were those "Evil Ones"
<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.

The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. Fwiffo's description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.

Other mysteries

Minor mysteries resulting from extrapolation or critical analysis of the canon lore.

Post-SC2

Mysteries related to elements of an eventual Star Control II sequel.

How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the Ur-Quan?


Are there Spathi still out there not under the Spathiwa slave shield?
Are there any Ilwrath and/or Thraddash left after their war?
Where are the new Shofixti settling?
What happened to the neo-Dnyarri?

Did he survive as it is said in the out-takes?


Is the Ultron still in working order?

Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?


How will the Ultron change the Druuge?

How did it change the Supox?


Trivial

Mysteries related to details with little or no importance.


What does the face of an Utwig look like?
Is the VUX Beast the only one left of its species?

Additional

Mysteries resulting from the critical analysis of elements in the plot not presented as mysteries.

What happened to the Tobermoon and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?

The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?

Why did a Slylandro Probe only disable the Tobermoon?
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