Talk:Walkthrough

Just a few things. How is this going to differ from Ultronomicon:Game events? Or, what will this walkthrough do that that article doesn't? The structure of the game is very non-linear so a traditional walkthrough would be difficult. If this walkthrough is going to be significantly different, you should probably use the game events article as a guide for mentioning required/optional events and order of events (when it exists) since I believe Phoenix and Svdb hashed those out fairly well. --Fyzixfighter 21:10, 17 Dec 2005 (CET)

This Walk-Thru will be an in-depth, step by step guide to fisnihing the game. When I first played Ur-Quan, I got lost many times (lost meaning what to do next, not where I was in the universe ;)) and a guide would have helped me to see where I was and what I was supposed to do next. Alas, no guide exists on this Wiki so I have decided to create one myself, having completed the game recently. I wasn't aware Ultronomicon:Game events existed. Even so, I'm still going to go ahead and design this Walk Thru because it will be a lot of help to those new at playing. --k776

The standard that seems to have developed on this site for referring to planets/moons is "Zeta Centauri Ia", though I can't recall where or if we discussed this in depth. The star name followed by the roman numeral for the planet is typical of most of the in-game conversations. At the moment I can't find any in-game reference for the moon designation, but the lower case letters w/o hyphen designation is similar to that used in the Role Playing Resource Guide. I can't remember if there was a unique designation when in orbit of the moons in the PC version - none exists in UQM. --Fyzixfighter 21:10, 17 Dec 2005 (CET)

Very well. I will change the format now :D I want to keep everything as normal as it should be :D --k776

It might be better to move all the NOTES to a separate section of their own since they are applicable to more than just the situation where they appear and their current position tends to break the flow of the article. --Fyzixfighter 21:10, 17 Dec 2005 (CET)

Hmm. My original idea was to have small notes when something is first addressed, so the bigger the Walk-Thru gets, the less notes you'll see at the end of it. For eg, since mining minerals and fighting has already been addressed, it wont be elsewhere. However, if I move the notes to the bottom of the page, what do you think would be the best way to link them? I was thinking of linking it via a (?) button next to the text? --k776

Just some thoughts. Welcome aboard and good luck. --Fyzixfighter 21:10, 17 Dec 2005 (CET)

Thanks for the comments Fyzixfighter. --k776

I think a walkthrough that tells the player what to do in a descriptive way could have a place here. But note that plenty of similar SC2 walkthroughs can be found across the web. — SvdB 07:24, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Yes, there are heaps of SC2 walkthroughs, but they are for SC2 :P I have noticed quite a lot of differences in planets between a SC2 walkthrough and the Ur-Quan Masters game. So I thought I'd make an original walkthrough for this wiki. --k776

There should really be no significant differences between SC2 and UQM (see Version Comparison). Got any examples? — SvdB 19:33, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Well, mostly do do with planet and constellation names. For eg, in one point in the game, a SC2 walkthrough told me to go to the Androsynth homeworld of Epsilon Vulpeculae II. After searching for ages, I consulted this wiki to find it is actually at Eta Vulpeculae II. And there is a few of these differences. --k776

One minor point of criticism — no, make that one BIG point of criticism: Using "thru" for "through" really hurts my eyes. — SvdB 07:24, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Thru has been changed to Through. :D --k776

I've made "walkthrough" one word; "walk through" is incorrect. "walk-through" is correct, but as "walkthrough" is the most common spelling, I've changed all mentions to that. — SvdB 19:33, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Bleh. If thats how it should be..... no complaints :D Thanks. --k776

Before I start a minor edit war, I'd better explain some of the edits I had made to the article. The heading structure needs to be revisited in order to follow wikipedia conventions as described in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings). Only the title of the article should be H1, which is done automatically. All other headings in the body of the article should be H2 or more. That said, I think you could take out the "Welcome..." heading, which seems to serve the same purpose as the article title, and have that paragraph be the opening paragraph for the entire article. This would be kind of awkward, though, given the "work in progress" heading above so you might have to move stuff around. --Fyzixfighter 08:33, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Hmm. I thought the way it looked was fine. However, I hope the changes I have made to it now are what you meant. If not, feel free to edit it yourself and correct it. *Note* The "A work in progress" will be removed when the page is nearly complete and so will make the page look tidier. --k776

As to the Pkunk, they never actually join the cause. They do consider you a friend and offer ships on occasion, but they never formally ally with you nor send their ship designs and captains to the starbase. Thus, I think "assist" is a better description than "join" for their role. Yeah, it's a bit nitpicking but it's also being accurate. We wouldn't want someone to read the walkthrough and then wonder why they couldn't build Pkunk Furies at the starbase. --Fyzixfighter 08:33, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)

Ok. I've changed it to 'assist' and 'help' rather than 'join' and 'ally'. I have also added a note regarding that fact that you dont get their plans so make those 4 ships last. --k776

Planets & Moons

Sorry to dip in late, but as I recall, the "Star_name IIa" designation for moons comes from the original PC version of SC2. That's the schema I used when first creating the various articles describing moons in the star system. It may not be mentioned in UQM, but it sure makes it easier to identify those things. --Phoenix (t) 00:54, 19 Dec 2005 (CET)

So basicly add an underscore for planets with two words in its name? --k776

Oh, no. That was my way of denoting an example of a name. --Phoenix (t) 01:53, 19 Dec 2005 (CET)

That's not true! In the PC it was similar to Ur-Quan-Masters, when you orbited a moon it still displayed the name of the planet, the moon belongs to. The only exception is the Sol system, since all the planets and moons have their traditional names... 217.254.145.71 02:03, 19 March 2006 (CET)

I am sorry for interrupting: but i have found a pseudo cheat: if you are using your flagship in a battle, hold "esc" to warp out immediatly. if the enemy attacks, you will be instantly destroyed, but if you are destroyed, you will still be alive. THX. (webmaster:please e-mail me at waladil@lycos.com) That is not a cheat (Esc).

The starbase commander says they have installed a device so that you can escape from combat with any ship (not just the capital ship) by pressing Escape.Ggb667 14:11, 20 April 2006 (CEST)