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This is a list of mysteries that are still open at the end of [[Star Control II]].
 
This is a list of mysteries that are still open at the end of [[Star Control II]].
  
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==Major mysteries==
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Central mysteries in the [[Star Control Universe]], around which an eventual Star Control II sequel will likely revolve.
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===What happened to the [[Precursors]]?===
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From the [[Slylandro]]:
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:Joyous Lifting, who has a better memory than I recalls that the Shaggy Ones were described as being... worried.
 +
:They were always hurrying from place to place, seeking knowledge as though they were in a desperate search for some important secret some answer to a question that they never shared with us.
 +
:Sullen Plummet remembers that the last time the Shaggy Ones visited our world they came aboard a great circular starship, one even larger than your own.
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:They had discovered their Answer and were leaving to go somewhere and they didn't tell us exactly where 'somewhere' was.
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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:<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the [[Orz]] assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the [[Precursors]].
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===What is the purpose of the [[Rainbow World]]s?===
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From the [[Slylandro]]:
 +
:We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.
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===Who are [[They|They/Them]]?===
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===What are the [[Arilou]]'s motives for messing with [[humans]]?===
  
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===Why did the [[Melnorme]]'s bridge turn purple?===
 
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The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the [[3DO]] version and [[UQM]]), but it is impossible to gather this many credits.
 
  
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===Do the Orz have a special purpose for the [[Humans]], as the [[Arilou]] have?===
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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:"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."
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:<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
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:<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.
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===How did [[The Captain]] find the Mark II?===
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How did he use it?
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==Secondary mysteries==
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Less important mysteries that are likely to be answered in an eventual Star Control II sequel.
  
 
===What happened to the [[Androsynth]]? Are any still alive?===
 
===What happened to the [[Androsynth]]? Are any still alive?===
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
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<LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2?
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<Fwiffo> In regards to the Androsynth: They were snagged by the entity who/which projected its fingers into our dimension (which looked to us as the Orz.)
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From a fan email with Fred Ford:
 
From a fan email with Fred Ford:
 
:> Were ALL the Androsynth destroyed when the [[Orz]] came?
 
:> Were ALL the Androsynth destroyed when the [[Orz]] came?
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===What are the [[Arilou]]'s motives for messing with [[humans]]?===
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===Were the Humans and the [[Syreen]] the same species initially?===
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Were the Syreen some sort of control group for the Arilou experiments on the human race?
  
  
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===Did the [[Arilou]] interfere in the development of other races besides the [[Humans]]?===
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===Who created the [[Mother Ark]] that built the [[Mmrnmhrm]] and with what purpose?===
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Commander [[Hayes]] mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the [[Thraddash]]).
 
  
  
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===Were the Humans and the [[Syreen]] the same species initially?===
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===Who are the [[Keel-Verezy]]?===
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Were the Syreen some sort of control group for the experiments with the human race?
 
  
  
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===Who are [[They|They/Them]]?===
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===How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the [[Ur-Quan]]?===
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====The [[Battle Thralls]]====
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====The [[Fallow Slave]]s====
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====Other races====
  
  
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===Who or what are the [[Nnngn]] that the [[Arilou]] are chasing?===
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===Did the [[Arilou]] interfere in the development of other races besides the [[Humans]]?===
 +
Commander [[Hayes]] mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the [[Thraddash]]).
  
  
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===What is the history of the [[Arilou]] with the [[Orz]]?===
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===How will the Ultron change the [[Druuge]]?===
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How did it change the Supox?
  
  
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===Do the Orz have a special purpose for the [[Humans]], as the [[Arilou]] have?===
+
===What does the rest of the galaxy look like?===
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
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:<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
 
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:<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.
 
  
  
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===Where did the [[Orz]] come from?===
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==Minor mysteries==
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They name their dimension "[[*below*]]", so it apparently has a lower [[reality phase]] than [[HyperSpace]] and [[TrueSpace]], but how exactly is it like and why did the Orz leave it?
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Mysteries irrelevant to the plot of an eventual Star Control II sequel.
  
−
===What happened to the [[Precursors]]?===
+
===Does the [[Black Spathi Squadron]] really exist?===
−
From the [[Slylandro]]:
 
−
:Joyous Lifting, who has a better memory than I recalls that the Shaggy Ones were described as being... worried.
 
−
:They were always hurrying from place to place, seeking knowledge as though they were in a desperate search for some important secret some answer to a question that they never shared with us.
 
−
:Sullen Plummet remembers that the last time the Shaggy Ones visited our world they came aboard a great circular starship, one even larger than your own.
 
−
:They had discovered their Answer and were leaving to go somewhere and they didn't tell us exactly where 'somewhere' was.
 
  
−
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
−
:<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the [[Orz]] assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the [[Precursors]].
 
  
−
===What is the purpose of the [[Rainbow World]]s?===
+
===Why did the [[Melnorme]]'s bridge turn purple?===
−
From the [[Slylandro]]:
+
The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the [[3DO]] version and [[UQM]]), but it is impossible to gather this many credits, and their conversation tree doesn't include a response for this.
−
:We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.
 
  
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===What happened to the [[Talking Pet|neo-Dnyarri]]?===
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 +
:"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."
  
  
−
===How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the [[Ur-Quan]]?===
+
===What is the history of the [[Arilou]] with the [[Orz]]?===
−
====The [[Battle Thralls]]====
 
−
====The [[Fallow Slave]]s====
 
−
====Other races====
 
  
  
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===Are there [[Spathi]] still out there not under the [[Spathiwa]] [[slave shield]]?===
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===Where did the [[Orz]] come from?===
 +
They name their dimension "[[*below*]]", so it apparently has a lower [[reality phase]] than [[HyperSpace]] and [[TrueSpace]], but how exactly is it like and why did the Orz leave it?
  
  
−
===Does the [[Black Spathi Squadron]] really exist?===
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===Why didn't the [[Mycon]] [[Sphere of Influence]] expand more during the years?===
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Their primary goal is expansion; why, then, do they progress so slowly?
  
  
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===Does the [[Spathi]]'s [[Ultimate Evil]] really exist?===
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===How did the Pkunk and the [[Yehat]] get separated?===
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From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 
−
:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
 
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:<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on [[Spathiwa]]?
 
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:<Xxyl> I believe those were those "[[Evil Ones]]"
 
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:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
 
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:<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.
 
  
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The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. [[Fwiffo]]'s description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.
 
  
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===Are there any [[Ilwrath]] and/or Thraddash left after [[Ilwrath-Thraddash war|their war]]?===
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==Trivial mysteries==
 +
Completely irrelevant mysteries, many of which are inserted just for flavour.
  
 +
===Who or what are the [[Nnngn]] that the [[Arilou]] are chasing?===
  
−
===Is the [[Ultron]] still in working order?===
 
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Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?
 
  
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===What does the face of an [[Utwig]] look like?===
  
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===Where are the new [[Shofixti]] settling?===
 
  
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===How can [[slave shield]]s be shut down?===
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Can they decay, as it may have happened with the Faz's planet?<br>How did the [[Chmmr]] shut down the slave shield from withing?
  
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===What happened to the [[Tobermoon]] and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?===
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Note that one method of cracking slave shields is known: in the ending video of the 3DO version of Star Control II, the Chmmr insert a network of satellites in [[Earth]]'s slave shield, the resulting disruptions causing its collapse.
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The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?
 
  
  
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===Why did a [[Slylandro]] [[Probe]] only disable the Tobermoon?===
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===How does the [[MetaChron]] work?===
  
  
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===Who created the [[Mother Ark]] that built the [[Mmrnmhrm]] and with what purpose?===
+
===How can ships reach half the speed of light in [[TrueSpace]] without side effects?===
  
  
−
===Who are the [[Keel-Verezy]]?===
+
===What is the relevance of ground warfare in the Star Control Universe?===
 +
What ground weaponry is used by the various alien races?
  
  
−
===What does the face of an [[Utwig]] look like?===
+
==Other mysteries==
 +
Mysteries of uncertain importance.
  
 +
===What happened to the [[Talking Pet|neo-Dnyarri]]?===
 +
Did he survive as it is said in the out-takes?
  
−
===How did [[The Captain]] find the Mark II?===
 
−
How did he use it?
 
  
 +
===Does the [[Spathi]]'s [[Ultimate Evil]] really exist?===
 +
From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both [[Paul Reiche III|Paul]] and [[Fred Ford|Fred]] here):
 +
:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
 +
:<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on [[Spathiwa]]?
 +
:<Xxyl> I believe those were those "[[Evil Ones]]"
 +
:<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
 +
:<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.
  
−
===How will the Ultron change the [[Druuge]]?===
+
The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. [[Fwiffo]]'s description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.
−
How did it change the Supox?
 
  
  
−
===How can [[slave shield]]s be shut down?===
+
===Are there [[Spathi]] still out there not under the [[Spathiwa]] [[slave shield]]?===
−
Can they decay, as it may have happened with the Faz's planet?<br>How did the [[Chmmr]] shut down the slave shield from withing?
 
  
−
Note that one method of cracking slave shields is known: in the ending video of the 3DO version of Star Control II, the Chmmr insert a network of satellites in [[Earth]]'s slave shield, the resulting disruptions causing its collapse.
 
  
 +
===Are there any [[Ilwrath]] and/or Thraddash left after [[Ilwrath-Thraddash war|their war]]?===
  
−
===How does the [[MetaChron]] work?===
 
  
 +
===Is the [[Ultron]] still in working order?===
 +
Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?
  
−
===How did the Pkunk and the [[Yehat]] get separated?===
 
  
 +
===Where are the new [[Shofixti]] settling?===
  
−
===Why didn't the [[Mycon]] [[Sphere of Influence]] expand more during the years?===
 
−
Their primary goal is expansion; why, then, do they progress so slowly?
 
  
 +
===What happened to the [[Tobermoon]] and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?===
 +
The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?
  
−
===What does the rest of the galaxy look like?===
 
  
 +
===Why did a [[Slylandro]] [[Probe]] only disable the Tobermoon?===
  
−
===How can ships reach half the speed of light in [[TrueSpace]] without side effects?===
 
  
 
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Revision as of 12:26, 14 May 2007

This is a list of mysteries that are still open at the end of Star Control II.

Major mysteries

Central mysteries in the Star Control Universe, around which an eventual Star Control II sequel will likely revolve.

What happened to the Precursors?

From the Slylandro:

Joyous Lifting, who has a better memory than I recalls that the Shaggy Ones were described as being... worried.
They were always hurrying from place to place, seeking knowledge as though they were in a desperate search for some important secret some answer to a question that they never shared with us.
Sullen Plummet remembers that the last time the Shaggy Ones visited our world they came aboard a great circular starship, one even larger than your own.
They had discovered their Answer and were leaving to go somewhere and they didn't tell us exactly where 'somewhere' was.

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<Fwiffo> In our rambling thoughts about SC3 we did seriously consider having the Orz assume a much larger and more ominous role, opposed to the return of the Precursors.


What is the purpose of the Rainbow Worlds?

From the Slylandro:

We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate.


Who are They/Them?

What are the Arilou's motives for messing with humans?

Do the Orz have a special purpose for the Humans, as the Arilou have?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<Mephisto_> Fwiffo: What exactly did the Arilou *quickbabies* do to piss off the Orz so much?
<Fwiffo> The Arilou always *jumped in front*, which was both a physical taunt as well as a political one. They got to the humans first.


How did The Captain find the Mark II?

How did he use it?


Secondary mysteries

Less important mysteries that are likely to be answered in an eventual Star Control II sequel.

What happened to the Androsynth? Are any still alive?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here): <LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2? <Fwiffo> In regards to the Androsynth: They were snagged by the entity who/which projected its fingers into our dimension (which looked to us as the Orz.)

From a fan email with Fred Ford:

> Were ALL the Androsynth destroyed when the Orz came?
Perceptive lad. This was a leading plot candidate for our theoretical sequel.


Are there still Taalo alive?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<_Stilgar> <che`z`puf> Are the Taalo really dead, and when the Pkunk spoke of rocks that were awakened, did they mean the Taaolo?
<Fwiffo> The Taalo LIVE!


Were the Humans and the Syreen the same species initially?

Were the Syreen some sort of control group for the Arilou experiments on the human race?


Who created the Mother Ark that built the Mmrnmhrm and with what purpose?

Who are the Keel-Verezy?

How were the alien societies affected by the fall of the Ur-Quan?

The Battle Thralls

The Fallow Slaves

Other races

Did the Arilou interfere in the development of other races besides the Humans?

Commander Hayes mentions that the Arilou intimated that they "had some fun" with "an alien race in Draconis" (the Thraddash).


How will the Ultron change the Druuge?

How did it change the Supox?


What does the rest of the galaxy look like?

Minor mysteries

Mysteries irrelevant to the plot of an eventual Star Control II sequel.

Does the Black Spathi Squadron really exist?

Why did the Melnorme's bridge turn purple?

The Melnorme offer to tell you this piece of information for 120,000 credits (on the PC version) or 12,000,000 credits (on the 3DO version and UQM), but it is impossible to gather this many credits, and their conversation tree doesn't include a response for this.

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

"<Fwiffo> I promise here and now, that in our next SC project, we'll answer that Purple Bridge question to your ultimate satisfaction."


What is the history of the Arilou with the Orz?

Where did the Orz come from?

They name their dimension "*below*", so it apparently has a lower reality phase than HyperSpace and TrueSpace, but how exactly is it like and why did the Orz leave it?


Why didn't the Mycon Sphere of Influence expand more during the years?

Their primary goal is expansion; why, then, do they progress so slowly?


How did the Pkunk and the Yehat get separated?

Trivial mysteries

Completely irrelevant mysteries, many of which are inserted just for flavour.

Who or what are the Nnngn that the Arilou are chasing?

What does the face of an Utwig look like?

How can slave shields be shut down?

Can they decay, as it may have happened with the Faz's planet?
How did the Chmmr shut down the slave shield from withing?

Note that one method of cracking slave shields is known: in the ending video of the 3DO version of Star Control II, the Chmmr insert a network of satellites in Earth's slave shield, the resulting disruptions causing its collapse.


How does the MetaChron work?

How can ships reach half the speed of light in TrueSpace without side effects?

What is the relevance of ground warfare in the Star Control Universe?

What ground weaponry is used by the various alien races?


Other mysteries

Mysteries of uncertain importance.

What happened to the neo-Dnyarri?

Did he survive as it is said in the out-takes?


Does the Spathi's Ultimate Evil really exist?

From the #StarControl Efnet IRC chat of 1998-10-18 (Fwiffo is both Paul and Fred here):

<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "How does an "Ultimate Evil" -race in an SC2 -style game behave when meeting the player?"
<Fwiffo> You mean the big carnivorous teddy bears on Spathiwa?
<Xxyl> I believe those were those "Evil Ones"
<_Stilgar> <Spyhunter> Fwiffo: "No, I mean the main enemy in the game. ;)"
<Fwiffo> Oh yeah. Well, I rarely paint someone as absolutely "evil" -- it's all a matter of perspective. What is interesting is why people (aliens) do things that seem evil to you or me, and what prevents us from doing the same.

The fact that Paul/Fred didn't recall the Ultimate Evil suggests that this is not an important plot point, but merely a product of the Spathi's paranoia. Fwiffo's description "[...] it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors [...]" supports this idea.


Are there Spathi still out there not under the Spathiwa slave shield?

Are there any Ilwrath and/or Thraddash left after their war?

Is the Ultron still in working order?

Are the events in the outtakes with respect to the Ultron to be taken seriously?


Where are the new Shofixti settling?

What happened to the Tobermoon and its crew in the Vela Oort Cloud?

The Star Control II manual states that The Captain finds the drifting, battle-damaged ship, "Strangely, there were no bodies at all on board." Who attacked it, and why take the bodies but leave the ship?


Why did a Slylandro Probe only disable the Tobermoon?

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